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will americans ever regain respect?

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by jackaroo, Aug 30, 2008.

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  1. jackaroo

    jackaroo TS Member

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    Americans were treated with respect and looked up to while traveling to foreign countries in the past. now since the Bush Presidency we are a laughing stock to foreign countries all over the world. the "American Dream" is probably gone for our future generations,as American citizens we used to be the wealthiest nation in the world and now we are not in the top 50. this country needs change without some kind of change the future of American citizens will not be great like it should be in America. to those who are narrow minded enough to try to believe that Obama wants to take our guns just be realistic, even the republicans are not using that as a campaign issue. and also Bush does not believe in abortion but he has not stopped it in his eight years he has been in office so the people that voted for him for that reason only he really failed for them. some things are just campaign issues that win votes from the less intelligent voters who believe it.
     
  2. Jerry944t

    Jerry944t Well-Known Member

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    jackaroo, that's a violation. Umbrella rigs are Not allowed on this site.
     
  3. halfmile

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    Looks more like a set line to me.

    Baited with bullshit, too. Read "The Ugly American" published in 1958. This has been going on a lot longer than the Bush years.

    Try a gill net next time.

    HM
     
  4. Sitsinhedges

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    I don't know enough about Amwerican politics to comment, but I do know that Tony Blair is the most despised British Prime Minister who has effectively wrecked our country and sold us into slavery via the corrupt and anti democratic European Union. Please don't hold him up as an example of anything except treachery and self interest, a used car con man, along with his wife.

    Heaven only knows why Americans seem to hold him in such high esteem.

    ATB
    Andy
     
  5. nipper

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    what you fail to realize is a lot of foreign investors have lost mega money in us company stock,talk with the everyday englishman and see what response you get about the last 8 years. we will never be out of debt so it will continue to be the same old thing..

    the answer to your question is no. it dosent matter who gets elected

    bill
     
  6. birdogs

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    Then why are so many coming to America by boat, plane, and simply sneakink over the borders? I guess their low self-esteem causes them to want to be identified with us American low lifes.
     
  7. Paladin

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    "to those who are narrow minded enough to try to believe that Obama wants to take our guns just be realistic, even the republicans are not using that as a campaign issue."


    Speaking of less intelligent voters, your belief in the above sentence speaks for itself. You could not be more wrong.
     
  8. jackaroo

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    sarge its not just the thugs and dictators who dis like America. with your comment about Tony Blair, I guess you still think Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. that is the kind of thinking i was referring to when i said less intelligent.
     
  9. JBrooks

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    "but then again i never knew protecting our national interests and liberating the oppressed was a popularity contest."

    Fred, one of the best lines, ever.

    Having spent time traveling and doing business in Europe, I can't say that I have been treated badly any in more often than traveling in the US. However,
    loke sarge, I have always lived my life in the manner I felt was right and if others don't like it, so be it.

    The next President will appoint 1 maybe 2 SC Justices in the next four years. If it is two more Ginsbergs, you can kiss your guns and a lot of other freedoms, goodbye.
     
  10. Paladin

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    From the NRA/ILA;

    "This week, the Village of Morton Grove, Illinois agreed to a stipulated dismissal of a NRA lawsuit challenging the village's gun ban. A new town ordinance recognizes the right to private handgun ownership, bringing an end to NRA's lawsuit against the village. Morton Grove completely dismissed its ordinance banning handguns and agreed not to replace it with any direct regulation other than to adopt existing state laws."

    Speaking of less intelligent,,jackaroo,,go to Morton Grove AND TELL THOSE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO PRIVATE HANDGUN OWNERSHIP ALL ALONG!!!! THE ORDINANCE WAS A FIGMENT OF THEIR IMAGINATION!! TELL THEM!!!! Damn are you ever "less intelligent"!!!
     
  11. shot410ga

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    If America is such a bad place, why do millions of people want to move here. I might add, from every country in the world
     
  12. jackaroo

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    paladin, you feel as strongly about keeping good paying jobs, without them people will not be able to afford to buy guns.
     
  13. pendennis

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    jackaroo - How is this best put?

    It would be immensely helpful if you could write a coherent paragraph. Good grammar requires that sentences start with CAPITAL letters. It would also help if you could put a couple of spaces between sentences. Since E. E. Cummings died in 1962, we can safely assume you are not he.

    Paragraphs delineate changes in thought. Please consider using this form of writing, in order to buttress your collectivist drivel.

    You write, stating that "the 'American Dream' is gone for our future generations". However, your argument, "pro-Obama", will help bury it for all time.

    The rest of the world lines up daily at American embassies, to get visas and try and immigrate from their home countries. Go to Mexico City, stand outside the American embassy, and watch as literally thousands line up to leave Mexico.

    You listen too much to socialist/collectivist minds like Obama, and you believe the drivel these fools put out like so much water from a broken hydrant.

    Unless the Congress passes a law banning the killing of unborn children, there is literally nothing President Bush, or any other pro-life President can do. No American President rules by fiat, despite what your paranoid mind tells you.

    Most Americans do not care what the political leaders of China, Russia, or any other socialist/communist/fanatic-Islam country thinks of us. You listen too much to NBC, CBS, and ABC. We are hated, for the most part, for what we represent, and that is the export of human freedom. It has been so for over a century.

    Think of this scenario -

    Obama is elected President, and has a greater majority in the Senate than today. Justice Kennedy retires, and Obama has the pick. Do you really believe that another Heller v. Washington, DC, would be decided in favor of individual rights? Four liberal justices ruled that the Second Amendment was not an individual right!

    Obama is spouting the usual left-wing pap that you love to hear. How will he, or anyone else pay for these grandiose health and job plans. They tell you these things knowing these goals cannot be achieved without massive tax increases, and further diminishing of rights.

    Obama states that he wants the U.S. to be "off oil" in ten years. Do you think, for a moment, that this is possible?

    You, along with others who are incapable of reading and thinking through the rhetoric will blindly follow those who promise you something at the expense of others. These are exactly the things of which Jefferson, Franklin, and de Tocqueville warned.

    The first step in learning is learning to think.

    Dennis
     
  14. blizzard

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    Just another liberal pin head from moveon.org trying to stir the turd on a mostly conservative board before the election. Definitely not a gun owner. Now go away boy, you're bothering the grown ups.
     
  15. bobdog

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    It's all George Bush's personal fault. The Great Depression, World War II, Vietnam, the Cold War, flatulence, my embarrassing handicap scores, my beer gut...all of it. O woe is us.

    What we need now is some sort of Messiah! Where, o where, I wonder, could we find such a superior human being, pray tell?
     
  16. chuckles

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    Youngsters like Jackaroo, naive, ill-informed, not yet able to comprehend what they read are rampant in USA today, in fact it is an endemic situation...

    It is really scary when you consider that they will be adults someday...

    I would almost bet that Jackaroo is a grandchild of young adults of the 1960's...

    regards
     
  17. Ken X

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    I work with quite a few people from other parts of the world ( all very skilled machinists) and everyone of them will tell you what you say is not true. Even one friend, from Russia, indoctrinated all his life about Americas evils, wil tell you virtually every relative and friend there KNOWS that the USA is the top country in the world, and all of them would like to get here, as he has. They are not quite as much kept in the dark about world affairs as they used to be, and now have heard more about truth around the world. They KNOW now that Putin and the govt. still control all the official news, and 90% regard it all as bullshit. They abosolutely KNOW that the USA is the major voice of real freedom and one of the few countries with real intergrity internationaly. Just the wackos don't like us.

    You sir, don't know what you are talking about!
     
  18. jackaroo

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    have been a gun owner and sportsman my entire life and strongly support that right but what some do not seem to understand is that there are other important issues facing this country also. after eight years of failure you would you like to try the same thing four more?
     
  19. blizzard

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    Like I said..............
     
  20. Paladin

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    "paladin, you feel as strongly about keeping good paying jobs".

    Absolutely. What have the liberals done to promote that? The list of things they have done to do away with good jobs is long. Tell me how liberals are trying to keep good paying jobs?






    "without them people will not be able to afford to buy guns."

    If this country were filled with liberals, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OWN GUNS. AFFORDING THEM WOULD BE IRRELEVANT!!!!!!
     
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