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Why the Country is Headed to Hell.

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by JBrooks, Oct 12, 2008.

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  1. JBrooks

    JBrooks TS Member

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    There si a vast leftwing conspiracy to control our Country and Obama is just the front man. Consider:
    www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org Date: 10/12/2008 11:17:39 AM


    CENTER FOR COMMUNITY CHANGE (CCC)
    1000 Wisconsin Ave. NW
    Washington, DC
    20007
    Phone :202-342-0519
    URL :http://www.communitychange.org/


    Non-profit organization that recruits and trains activists to spearhead leftwing political issue campaigns.

    Favors expanded rights for illegal aliens in the U.S.

    Founded in 1968, the Center for Community Change (CCC) is a non-profit organization that recruits and trains activists to spearhead leftist "political issue campaigns" and promotes increased funding for social welfare programs by bringing “attention to major national issues related to poverty.”

    CCC bases its training programs on the techniques taught by the famed radical organizer Saul Alinsky. Following Alinsky's blueprint for establishing "grassroots" organizations to agitate for social change, CCC states that it has "nurtured thousands of local groups and leaders" across the United States.

    Notable CCC Board members include:

    Heather Booth, who is closely allied with the radical organization ACORN and is the co-founder and President of the Midwest Academy
    Paul Booth (Heather Booth's husband), a founder and former National Secretary of Students for a Democratic Society, and the onetime President of the Chicago-based Citizen Action, a group formed in 1969 by trainees from Saul Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation
    Peter Edelman, Board President of New Israel Fund, Board Member of the Public Welfare Foundation, and husband of Children's Defense Fund founder Marian Wright Edelman
    Sara Gould, President and CEO of the Ms. Foundation for Women
    Former Rep. Ron Dellums (D-California), the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee 1993-97. (A letter written by a Dellums staffer to Grenada’s Marxist dictator discovered by U.S. troops as they liberated the island stated besides that toppled Marxist, “The only other person that I know of that [Dellums] expresses such admiration for is Fidel [Castro].”)
    Cecelia Munoz, Vice President of the National Council of La Raza
    Sandra L. Ferniza, Arizona State University’s Director of the Office of Public Affairs
    The Executive Director of CCC is Deepak Bhargava, who previously worked in various capacities at ACORN. The Center's campaign organizer is Drew Astolfi, who also serves as the Director of Faith Action for Community Equity, a faith-based multicultural organization that seeks to "challenge" the "systems" -- most notably free-market capitalism - "that perpetuate poverty and injustice."

    CCC identifies the following as some of its major concerns:

    Immigration: CCC endorses the Fair Immigration Reform Movement, which advocates amnesty for, unionization of, and increased voter participation by illegal immigrants "as a way to create political power.”

    Generation Change: This is CCC's "new effort to recruit, train and support tomorrow's grassroots organizers and leaders."

    Native American Project: This is "the heart of [CCC's] efforts to build grassroots leadership, organizational capacity, and a more unified voice among Native Americans for social and economic justice."

    Assistance for the Neediest: "In the mid-1990s, policymakers in Washington set out to reform the nation's welfare program. … Today, more people are poor, and those who are poor have slipped deeper into poverty."

    The Center for Community Change is a member of the United for Peace and Justice anti-war coalition, which is led by Leslie Cagan, a longtime committed socialist who aligns her politics with those of Fidel Castro's Communist Cuba.

    The Center is financially supported by such foundations as the Ahmanson Foundation, the Morris and Gwendolyn Cafritz Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Annie E. Casey Foundation, the Nathan Cummings Foundation, the Fannie Mae Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Joyce Foundation, the Scherman Foundation, the Open Society Institute, the David and Lucile Packard Foundation, the Public Welfare Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Surdna Foundation, and the Woods Fund of Chicago. "
     
  2. SwannyinMinn.

    SwannyinMinn. TS Member

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    Go shoot, golf, mow your yard. You are changing nobody's mind here.
     
  3. skeet100

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    I agree with the statement.

    1. Politicians give out advice on most every issue.

    2. Most receive it as fact, once run through liberal talking heads.

    3. Most folks are not well read enough to discuss the issues facing us.

    4. Most don’t care as long as it only shortens their chain "one link at a time".

    5. Too few give a shi+ about America to sacrifice what it would take to turn us around.

    I know after seeing us spend 700+ Billion and it not changing one thing, except for padding the pockets of a few wealthy donors, we are screwed from here on out no matter how we vote or how loud we complain......



    Which language is harder to learn Chinese or Russian?????
     
  4. JBrooks

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    'There ain't no "going to hell, for America" in my region of the USA!'

    Hopefully, your region can secede from the rest?
     
  5. BDodd

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    This article was something I copied and saved in the computer. Frankly, I don't recall what the source is/was but y'all may have some fun checking the time list at the bottom and consider where you think we are in the formula. Here goes:

    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier.

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.

    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.

    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations [democracies] from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.

    "During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    1. from bondage to spiritual faith;

    2. from spiritual faith to great courage;

    3. from courage to liberty;

    4. from liberty to abundance;

    5. from abundance to complacency;

    6. from complacency to apathy;

    7. from apathy to dependence;

    8. From dependence back into bondage"

    So, are we at #5; #6; or have we reached #7 already?

    Do, breakemall.....Bob Dodd
     
  6. bluedevil

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    Sbray says it so well, as well as the rest of the posts. We are so preoccupied with our "toys" we can't see what is happening. If you do speak out forcefully you are branded a nut or malcontent. The country is flooded with illegals, overflowing with kids that cannot do basic math or spell, screaming liberals who hate this country and crooked politicians. Do we stand a chance of turning this around?
     
  7. BDodd

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    Steve is dead on but this too; as long as the major voting populations in the country are urban needy, you can only see that we've solidly reached phase 7 on my first post with the majority. Right here in quiet(?) Willamette Valley, you see nothing but Obama signs on every urban lawn but drive outside the cities and there's nothing but McCain support. Which liberal will the majority, urban populations go for?.....breakemall....Bob Dodd
     
  8. JBrooks

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    "are urban needy"? More like the urban greedy as in "give everything I want but don't want to work for."
     
  9. b12

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    Remember what Jefferson said.
    A country that is big enough to give you everything you want, is also big enough to take everthing you have.

    To start to fix things in this country the first thing that must be done is close the door at the borders and screen anyone comming threw.
    Second is energy must be cheap or we will keep going thru the same economic problems without gainning a thing. Willie
     
  10. Big Az Al

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    """""""""SwannyinMinn.

    Go shoot, golf, mow your yard. You are changing nobody's mind here. """"""""""


    unfortunately you are right

    THOSE that want the country to to go to hell, and I believe you write like one of those, will argue about what is found and printed! Don't anyone dare try to take the blinders off!

    For the rest he is preaching to the choir! I hope the choir is getting out and spreading the message!

    AL
     
  11. jakearoo

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    Hallalouya!
     
  12. JBrooks

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    Right Jake,

    Maybe one of your grand kids will get this wonderful learning opportunity.

    "First-graders in San Francisco took a field trip to City Hall to celebrate the marriage of their lesbian teacher on Friday, but opponents of same-sex marriage in the state say the field trip was an attempt to “indoctrinate” the students, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

    The field trip was suggested by a parent at the Creative Arts Charter School, and the school said the trip, where students tossed rose petals on their teacher and her wife as they left City Hall, was academically relevant.

    "It really is what we call a teachable moment," said Liz Jaroslow, the school’s interim director, according to the newspaper. She said same-sex marriage had historic significance. "I think I'm well within the parameters."

    California will vote on Nov. 4 on Proposition 8 which seeks to ban same-sex marriage in the state, and supporters of the measure say the field trip shows that allowing same-sex marriage will mean it’s taught to school children, the newspaper said.

    "It's just utterly unreasonable that a public school field trip would be to a same-sex wedding," said Chip White, press secretary for the Yes on 8 campaign, told the Chronicle. "This is overt indoctrination of children who are too young to have an understanding of its purpose.""
     
  13. Rico46

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    Skeet100, Chinese would be much harder to master! There are so many different dialects outside the two major Cantonese and Mandarin. Russian is a cyrillic alaphabet which most of the letters look like the English alaphabet. They may sound a little different but it's not a tough language to master.

    Rick
     
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    Where I get concerned is how easily so many Americans are willing to surrender their freedoms to government, little by little. How so many look to government to solve problems they can & should deal with themselves. The indoor smoking bans is a case in point. I make the argument that we are ill avised to allow government to outlaw the use of a legal substance in a private business and I get a blank stare. We had a Hannah Montana concert here where some speculators used some computer system to buy out all the tickets in just several minutes. So the young girls who could not get a ticket for face value were upset and many of the mothers were calling for government regulation of that ticket buying method. Banks set a $1.50 fee for non-network ATM withdrawals and there calls for the government to prohibit such fees. I could go on & on but the point is I do not beleive enough Americans cherish or appreciate their freedom.
     
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    In a perverse way it might be best for America if Obama wins. We are into number 8 on Mr. Dodd's list, the citizens are looked upon as suspect at all levels of government, all of which is operating outside of constitutional restraint, and treated like criminals and subjects. Unless something pushes us collectively so far over the edge that Americans regain some pespective on what liberty is and how valuable it is, there is nothing left for us except to continue the slide back into bondage. Anyone who thinks that because we still have arms we can maintain our freedom hasn't watched the history channel and seen the kinds of weaponry the government has at it's disposal to use against rebellious citizens. At the same time scientific studies are being done of all the torture and execution methods of old to know how they work and how best to implement them. Why in the name of sanity would be people be studying these things when we should be trying to outgrow them? If Obama is elected and has majorities in both houses I believe we will learn the meaning of despotism up close in America. Perhaps that is what America really needs.
     
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    Hey JBrooks and titewad....may I use your posts on my blog?
     
  17. Brian in Oregon

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    The country is heading to Hell? Doesn't look like much of anything is there.
     
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    Hell is in Michigan.

    The country is going into the New world Order, and the NOrth American Union.

    Stop it if you can. I don't think guns will be OK by the rulers then.

    HM
     
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    Messrs Dodd and Brooks:

    Before we get exclusively sanctomonious about the greedy urban poor, remember the term 'greedy geezer' mostly applies to non-needy seniors (urban or otherwise) as in "give me MORE than I contributed through earnings. As in, 10 quarters on a payroll and I'm entitled (as is my surviving spouse) to more lifetime income than I ever contributed to the system. Way to much of give me mine now and send the bill to our grandkids and their kids, and their...

    b12 contributed a great quote attributed to Jefferson. Another familiar quote from George Bernard Shaw says, "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul."

    sissy
     
  20. JBrooks

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    RS,

    You, like so many others, are under the false impression the SS is a retirement system as opposed to an entitlement system. The concept of "paying in" and "getting it back' is laughable.
     
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