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Why is the price of shotshells skyrocketing??

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by JTWalls, Feb 6, 2008.

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  1. JTWalls

    JTWalls TS Member

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    Can anyone tell me the REAL reason why shot shell prices are going up so much faster than inflation?

    I have heard a million different reasons, but can anyone enlighten me on the TRUTH!!!

    Pete
     
  2. jbmOU

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    The truth is that lead has become very expensive, even though lead prices have come down a bit, the factories are using lead that they bought at 1.60+ a pound and must use that lead up. There are about two pounds of lead in a box of shells 1.60 times two is 3.20, add primers, wads, powder and profit and it comes out to about what stores are selling them for.
     
  3. JBrooks

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    Two primary reasons.

    1. The cost of lead on the open market has gone up considerably.

    2. The cost of fuel has gone up and lead, whether going to the factory or headed to the store in shotshells is really heavy.
     
  4. shadow

    shadow Active Member

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    A conspiracy dreamed up by the reloader manufacturers????
     
  5. pendennis

    pendennis Well-Known Member

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    Shadow, if it was a conspiracy, why would Dillon have those good lookin' babes in their catalogues?

    Best,
    Dennis
     
  6. b12

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    Greed it comes from speculation and minipulation. Both pay off in the short run when a certain part of the industry tries to corner the market. The really wealthy usually make it big and quick and leave the bottom dwellers high and dry cause they know these guys are suckers. The Hunt family tried it with silver and about got away with it but tried to take to much. This was a lesson learned. Kennedys did it with gold back in the seventys and made out very well. The kingpins of the steal industry worked it very well durring the Auto industry phase from domestic to foregin. The lead has been played out and the big boys have got their share. Now the speculators are holding the bag (lead). It is precieved that withing the next few weeks that retail will see the worst it has been in forty years. (Fox news)
    This will probably play again in another ten yrs. But I'm sure you will see lead at 20.00 or below sometime this summer. It seems that evertime this happens to the lead market it usually settles at 1/2 Price from the stable high which was around 40.oo average. The throat cutters like the big box store are going to hang on as long as they can. The heck with them just don't shoot.
     
  7. trapshootin hippie

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    I just left Gander Mountain store in Texas, and they had 45 ACP shells, plain hardball, for 45.00 a box. Not just shotshells going up.
     
  8. mike moncilovich

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    Its called CORPERATE GREED. LEAD has a chance of coming down,but you will never see the price of new shells or other loading components come down, even if gasolene and lead drop 80%.. Mike
     
  9. Tripod

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    lead, copper oil, (plastic is carbon from oil) it all has gone up a lot. Shipping costs more also.
     
  10. shannon391

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    It's all about the new mass consumer, China.
     
  11. BDodd

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    All those that won't reload any more because of the cost of components have the answer: Shell makers also load with components......Bob Dodd
     
  12. phirel

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    mike- I cannot see this situation as involving corporate greed. Winchester, Federal and Remington are under great pressure from imported shotgun shells. Sales of US made shotgun shells are way down. The only way Remington can compete with their premium shell is to do whatever is possible to lower the price of the product. We want the price of lead to fall but the corporate executives at Federal want it to fall more than we do. Their jobs are on the line. When sales fall and profits go down, executives get fired.

    Pat Ireland
     
  13. grnberetcj

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    Pat...to use an old axiom..."Nothing happens until a Sale is made".

    No buyers = no sales = no jobs.

    We as shooters are good for the economy. Not just shells & guns....look at all the associated spending we do. Hellfire, boys & girls....we're heroes!!

    Curt
     
  14. JOND

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    Why not just melt down toys from China! JOND
     
  15. Bocephas

    Bocephas Well-Known Member

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    Our club has a big buy each Feb.I saved last years list and compared it to this year.

    2007 shot Rem.$22.95 Eagle$20.95

    2008 shot Rem.$39.50 Eagle$35.50

    shells Rem. $54.00 VS $72.00

    Then you have sales tax to add.

    This with the price of gas is going to hurt the small clubs.

    Bo
     
  16. mike moncilovich

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    Pat, I've seen it before, in the early 80s, shot went to $20.00 a 25# bay and everything sky-rocketed, new shells, and all components. Lead came down, shot fell to $8.00 per bag. Nothing ealse followed suit. Yes CEOS get "fired", however they walk away with millions even when they run a Corp. thru bank-ruptcy. Warren Buffet is right, in ten years the dollar will be worthless, you'll need gold or silver to buy a loaf of bread or perhaps Yens... Mkie
     
  17. zondsix

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    Mike - it might even be lead as well as gold. HA!
    Z
     
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