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Why democrates support unions

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by smsnyder, Mar 13, 2011.

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  1. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    Leading Union Political Campaign Contributors
    1990-2010


    Democrats
    Republicans


    American Fed. of State, County, & Municipal Employees
    $40,281,900
    $547,700


    Intel Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
    29,705,600
    679,000


    National Education Association
    27,679,300
    2,005,200


    Service Employees International Union
    26,368,470
    98,700


    Communication Workers of America
    26,305,500
    125,300


    Service Employees International Union
    26,252,000
    1,086,200


    Laborers Union
    25,734,000
    2,138,000


    American Federation of Teachers
    25,682,800
    200,000


    United Auto Workers
    25,082,200
    182,700


    Teamsters Union
    24,926,400
    1,822,000


    Carpenters and Joiners Union
    24,094,100
    2,658,000


    Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union
    23,875,600
    226,300


    United Food and Commercial Workers Union
    23,182,000
    334,200


    AFL-CIO
    17,124,300
    713,500


    Sheet Metal Workers Union
    16,347,200
    342,800


    Plumbers & Pipefitters Union
    14,790,000
    818,500


    Operating Engineers Union
    13,840,000
    2,309,500


    Airline Pilots Association
    12,806,600
    2,398,300


    International Association of Firefighters
    12,421,700
    2,685,400


    United Transportation Workers
    11,807,000
    1,459,300


    Ironworkers Union
    11,638,900
    936,000


    American Postal Workers Union
    11,633,100
    544,300


    Nat'l Active & Retired Fed. Employees Association
    8,135,400
    2,294,600


    Seafarers International Union
    6,726,800
    1,281,300


    Source: Center for Responsive Politics, Washington, D.C.
     
  2. birdogs

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    Interesting but it begs the question.

    Why do unions support Democrats? The answer is simple. It is a symbiotic relationship which, in any other context would be called "criminal conspiracy" or "conflict of interest". Unions contribute to and work to elect Dems with whom they will ultimately negotiate their contracts. Even private sector unions do this because elected officials put policies in place that require that state and municipal contracts can only be awarded to union contractors.

    Further, union dues are spent as the union leaders see fit. The dues payers have no say in this. The union leaders and the Dems have an unholy alliance which has been "honored", frequently with a wink and a nod, since WW11. It is not a level playing field either on the work side or the political side. It is corrupt but as long as the Dems see that pot of gold residing in union coffers, they will be "pro-union" - as if they really gave a crap!

    It is the same thing with the US debt. Show these guys a stash of cash and they are genetically compelled to spend it - on things that benefit THEM!
     
  3. warren

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    Follow the money.

    warren
     
  4. hmb

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    Money. HMB
     
  5. gp1217

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    The same reason repukelicans support corporations and give tax breaks to the rich!!

    MONEY, MONEY, MONEY
     
  6. shootman

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    And how is this different than GM or all of the big utility companies and all of the other massive companies donating millions of dollars to rep. campaign funds to get republicans elected. I worked out of a labor union for 35 years and our dues went to a fund. Every month we had a union meeting of the members of the union and any money spent out of that fund was voted on by the members. The problem with the republicans is they cant stand it that the middle class [union or not ] workers can make a decent wage and enjoy the better things in life. the rep. have tried for years to eliminate the middle class and just have the wealthy and the poor. They should be carefull what they wish for. If you do away with the middle class, who will pay all the taxes in this country. I dont trust any polititions dem. or rep.. I think they are a bunch of high priced liars, they promise the people everything, the people elect them to office, then they forget the people,but the democrats have always seemed to do more for the working man than the rep. BOB
     
  7. halfmile

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    From 2006 till 2010 the Democrats controlled Congress and the policies of our country.

    We are a lot better off now from that right?


    *SNORT*...*GIGGLE*

    hm
     
  8. timberfaller

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    They are socialist and that explains why the Dumocrates are always attacking the constitution and always have the union support.

    If your a union member and a gun owner, why do you keep paying your dues when you know this is where it goes??? Who is always attacking gun ownership?

    Stuck on stupid!

    You can as a union member request your dues go to the Republican party, but it will take 2 years of fighting and paper work if you so choose!

    Choose wisely!
     
  9. likes-to-shoot

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    Timber, Where do yo get your information?

    As a union member I requested that NONE of my dues go to ANY political party. It went into effect as soon as I requested it and that was back in the early 80's.

    Our local endorses political candidates that are favorable to programs such as infrastructure, energy (windmills, power plants etc,) and building projects regardless of party affiliation. OH by the way, I'm in a right to work state so non-union companies benefit from our lobbying as they get to bid on the same projects. If you would like to look up the ratio here in Iowa you would see that non-union and out of state contractors get the majority of the bids.

    It still tickles me to see that so few of us population wise have such a large impact on so many of you people.

    I guess the freedoms that our
    Constitution give us only applies to a certain few of your kind. EH?

    Your union (retired) friend Bill :)
     
  10. crusha

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    If 7% of the workforce can't be what's hurting the country...then it also can't be what's keeping 85% of the middle class off skid row, either.


    You can't have it both ways.
     
  11. warren

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    I cannot see where it is right to force anybody to join any organization and pay dues, to get a job, this is supposed to be a free country.

    warren
     
  12. halfmile

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    Warren it IS a free country. If you don't like a closed shop get a job somewhere else.

    HM
     
  13. likes-to-shoot

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    warren..I live in a right to work state.

    There are jobs (when available, like the rest of the country) that are non-union. Anyone, including yourself, is welcome to apply. Have at it. Of course the wages and benefits aren't as good but look at the bright side, your not paying union dues.
     
  14. timberfaller

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    LTS,

    My information comes from my union experience. I was not given a choice.

    All my other post about unions, also come from my time in a union.

    LDS, do you scream and holler at your union rep when they come and tell you they're going back the wrong side or do you stay silent because none of your dues are backing the wrong side?

    Do you vote against the scumbags that tell you, you have to strike because they(union) are fighting so you get double time on your birthday if you stay and work that day? And the "company" is saying NO to those terms!

    Do you tell them to flake off when they(union) tell you "your to productive, knock it off,slow down"?

    Just wondering.
     
  15. likes-to-shoot

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    I'm not sure what unions your talking about but those allegations aren't true with the one I belong to.

    Can you even read a persons whole post and understand what they are saying?

    Just wondering?
     
  16. crusha

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    As a taxpayer, I want the government to be able to shop intelligently and award necessary contracts to competent contractors who represent the best value for the taxpayer's dollar.


    In Right To Work states, taxpayers generally have a decent chance of that. In non-RTW states, they do not.


    Good value for the dollar...or $578 Million dollar HIGH SCHOOLS built by the Mayor's cronies - your choice.
     
  17. halfmile

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    NO mayor's cronies in my area. The last high school built around here had about 15 electrical contractors bidding. A union contractor got the job.

    In this state the architect is in charge of the bidding process. The bids are publicly opened. Usually in projects of this size a bid bond is required. If a bid is abnormally low they investigate to make sure it's valid.

    I did a lot of work for 2 retail store chains, one preferred union contractors, the other not.

    Both chains got their stores built. In retrospect I have to say the union built buildings had better wiring done, and I saw them go together.

    In fairness, I also saw some real slugs who thought being in the union gave them the right to be other than good workers. (I was going to say something else)

    HM
     
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    Halfmile please explain what is free about a closed shop.

    warren
     
  19. porky

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    smsnyder, I can't make heads or tails of your message as far as numbers go. Can you break it up a bit?
     
  20. likes-to-shoot

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    Ictrapshooter........We've been through this before. I told you last time you followed me around on this site that I'm not that way. You are actually on the verge of stalking again.

    Your union (retired) friend, Bill
     
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