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Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by timberfaller, May 21, 2013.

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  1. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

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    liberals push, ie lead banning, can't be taken seriously!!!

    They loose ALL their creditability once they open their mouths!!

    And the eco-freaks rely on the leftist to further their agenda!!
     
  2. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

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    Then the flakes like this one doesn't get it either!!
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Climate changes causes big tornadoes?

    A quick peek at the link will show this is a bogus assertion.
     
  4. wireguy

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    Nice side step ZGUN. After all, timberfaller's spelling is the real issue here.
     
  5. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

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    Climate changes are real and they are naturally occuring. It really doesn't have much to do with the species Homo Sapiens.
     
  6. wireguy

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    I think it might have everything to do with all the hot air wasted on the subject by leftist democrat politicians and other leftist criminals.
     
  7. recurvyarcher

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    Wolfram is correct about the naturally-occurring sine waves in tracking of sine waves. Having been an engineer/scientist previously, I pooh-poohed the climate change "scare" as political folly. However, I have had a look at the data in a film called Chasing Ice, and this is more than a sine wave change.
     
  8. wireguy

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    I would never argue that climate change isn't taking place. I would argue vehemently that leftist politicians and other leftist zealots are not the experts on the subject. Having worked in the laboratories of a major university for 8 years I am well aware of what a bunch of disingenuous liars many so called scientists are. Most would sell their mothers into slavery if it would get them funding for their projects.
     
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    We Are the Idiots

    By: Walter Williams
    5/22/2013 06:00 AM



    Dr. Henry Miller, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, and Gregory Conko, senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, in their Forbes article “Rachel Carson’s Deadly Fantasies” (9/5/2012), wrote that her 1962 book, “Silent Spring,” led to a world ban on DDT use. The DDT ban was responsible for the loss of “tens of millions of human lives — mostly children in poor, tropical countries — have been traded for the possibility of slightly improved fertility in raptors (birds). This remains one of the monumental human tragedies of the last century.” DDT presents no harm to humans and, when used properly, poses no environmental threat. In 1970, a committee of the National Academy of Sciences wrote: “To only a few chemicals does man owe as great a debt as to DDT. … In a little more than two decades, DDT has prevented 500 million human deaths, due to malaria, that otherwise would have been inevitable.” Prior to the DDT ban, malaria was on the verge of extinction in some countries.

    The World Health Organization estimates that malaria infects at least 200 million people, of which more than a half-million die, each year. Most malaria victims are African children. People who support the DDT ban are complicit in the deaths of tens of millions of Africans and Southeast Asians. Philanthropist Bill Gates is raising money for millions of mosquito nets, but to keep his environmentalist credentials, the last thing that he’d advocate is DDT use. Remarkably, black congressmen share his vision.

    Wackoism didn’t end with Carson’s death. Dr. Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist, in his 1968 best-selling book, “The Population Bomb,” predicted major food shortages in the United States and that “in the 1970s … hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death.” Ehrlich saw England in more desperate straits, saying, “If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.” On the first Earth Day, in 1970, Ehrlich warned: “In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.” Ehrlich continues to be a media and academic favorite.

    Then there are governmental wacko teachings. In 1914, the U.S. Bureau of Mines predicted our oil reserves would last 10 years. In 1939, the U.S. Department of the Interior revised the estimate, saying that American oil would last 13 years. In 1972, the Club of Rome’s report “Limits to Growth” said total world oil reserves totaled 550 billion barrels. With that report in hand, then-President Jimmy Carter said, “We could use up all proven reserves of oil in the entire world by the end of the next decade.” He added, “The oil and natural gas we rely on for 75 percent of our energy are running out.” As for Carter’s running-out-of-oil prediction, a recent report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office and private industry experts estimate that if even half of the oil bound up in the Green River formation in Utah, Wyoming and Colorado is recovered, it would be “equal to the entire world’s proven oil reserves.” That’s an estimated 3 trillion barrels, more than what OPEC has in reserve. Fret not. Carter, like Ehrlich, is still brought before the media for his opinion.

    Our continued acceptance of environmentalist manipulation, lies and fear-mongering has led Congress to establish deadly public policies in the name of saving energy — such as Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards, which downsize autos and cause unnecessary highway fatalities. That’s on top of the stupid 1970s 55 mph laws. The next time an environmentalist warns us of a pending disaster or that we are running out of something, we ought to ask: When was the last time a prediction of yours was right? Some people are inclined to call these people idiots. That’s wrong. They have been successful in their agenda. It’s we who are the idiots for listening to them and allowing Congress to let them have their way.

    Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University.
     
  10. darr

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    "Some people are inclined to call these people idiots.That's wrong".A more true statement you will never read.The left has advanced their agenda seemingly unfettered.Through their infiltration of the education system,both higher and lower,and the beaurocracies that they themselves created they can control the nation.They are not idiots.They are evil geniuses.


    Darr
     
  11. flashmax

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    I wonder what the Ice looked like at the peak of the Kansan Advance. I wonder what the Ice looked like during the Medieval Maximum? Then we have the 'Little Ice Age". The several Millions of years when large Saurian creatures ruled the planet? All this 'Climate Change/Global Warming' bull-doo-doo is a result of the stupid draft law exempting college students from the draft and the US policy of fighting a proxy war against the Communist/Socialist pushes in hot-spots around the world and especially in Vietnam. I refuse to call the draft evaders and draft resisters 'cowards' but they did not answer their country when she called. Now we have a bunch of degreed, mastered, and Phudded kids who need jobs after majoring in Advanced Underwater Basket Weaving for Beginners and they found something that when shouted loud enough and long enough drew crowds. First it was a dire warning that the Earth was entering a new Ice Age. That didn't happen. Then it was Global Warming. The 'Hockey Stick" turned in to a Horse Puck. The lies told and the money wasted are staggering when fully comprehended.

    The Earth Warms. The Earth Cools. It has done so since the planet formed and it will do so after Humans are fossilized bones like the Dinosaurs who existed during a time when this planet was one He** of a lot warmer than it is now. The absolute hubris and arrogance of the 'environmentalist' gang that think an insignificant little speck of a human can 'save the planet' is pathetic to contemplate. Just another 'ism. Like Communism, Socialism,Capitalism, Catholicism, Racism, all the other 'ism's. A methodological attempt for small men to exert control over everyone else.

    With regards,

    Don T. Littleton CO
     
  12. timberfaller

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    Well zgun, I only went with what spell checker gave me.

    Not seeing your sign on before, I keep my assumptions of you to my self for now, until I learn a little more about you!
     
  13. timberfaller

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    Well that didn't take long!!

    ZGUN is a newbie, just over a year on here.

    Most "spelling police" turn out to be liberals and the name calling gives them away.

    Since you use the word, "dolt" I am going out on a limb and say YOU probably have a college degree or two! and have attended a occupuke gathering or two.
     
  14. Brian in Oregon

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    Typical liberal ploy - discredit an opponent's position by attacking his spelling.

    It just shows how desperate liberals are when they cannot argue a position based upon facts and merit.
     
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