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Which President is Better

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by ivanhoe, Mar 7, 2009.

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  1. ivanhoe

    ivanhoe Well-Known Member

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    Stunning video comparison of 2 presidents and the Marines serving them.

    I found it quite interesting you tell me is he fooling Our Marines or are they beyond his BS.

    Bob Lawless
     
  2. puablo

    puablo Well-Known Member

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    Bob,

    The libs can say what they want...for the most, part Pres. W was a class-act.
    I'd much rather have him now than the new prez.

    It cracks me up the way most of the libs go into convulsions whenever talking about W. The drool comes out of their mouths, the blood vessels in the eyes pop, and the socks on their legs roll up n' down...totally pathetic!

    puablo
     
  3. JBrooks

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    This is soooo telling. Bob, let's embed this. Great Find Thanks.

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  4. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    This "idiot" makes "Clinton" look good.
     
  5. REA

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    If a boot told the Commander in Chief what he really thought, my guess is he would be walking point for the rest of his tour, if he lasted that long.

    Here's a few tidbits for the Bush fans...

    There is a book out by a Marine sniper platoon (starts with Ronin)and they say that the Iraqi police is the enemy and Bush supplied them with arms and ammo which was used against US troops. They had the chance to pick up key figures (very bad ones) and were ordered not too. The snipers weren't allowed to do their job, and Iraq is going to replace one dictator with another. And of course all the missing weapons and money along the way. I would rather leave them over in the Mideast then force them to go elsewhere.

    Now we got 3 wars going. I was under the impression Obama was against the Iraq war and therefore any war of the same kind wasn't in the cards.

    I don't like any of the presidential choices.
     
  6. slide action

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    REA if you think that telling people that some of the Iraq police were turning on our tropps with weapons supplied by the U.S. is going to be some kind of NEWS FLASH you are sadly mistaken. The same thing happened in Vietnam. If you are trying to say that Bush personally and INTENTIONALY supplied weapons to known terroist then you are either sadly mistaken or a fool! I hope that is not your intention. As far as orders holding back our troops I'm sure there were some, but I doubt is they were ALL issued by Bush himself. I think Bush could have been more agressive in the war like many others and I think he made some mistakes, but at least I don't doubt whose side he was ON!!! I wouldn't trust the terroist loving meat head that's in the white house now for ANYTHING!!!! The fact that this socialist, political street pimp was elected over a war hero and retired Naval officer is enough to make me puke!
     
  7. M-16

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    The president must have congress's aproval after I believe 72 hrs if he started war to continuie it. Congress has the final say not the president. Our goverment has supplied many of our enemies when they had something we wanted, only later to fight them. Most all stuff we provide we are already using something better. How many old army jeeps M151 jeeps would the american people buy? We gave them to south america. The true enemy to our troops is the media and any congress member voting to hamper them doing there job. I've been part of two conflicts 1 went 2nd prepared troops. What we read in the news is not the truth but what seels more news truth or not. These are not wars we got going on, they are political conflicts. Thats is why they are screwed up. When
    Desert Storm was a war we did good, then when it went to a conflit/ congress got involved it went down hill. LET OUR SOLDIERS DO THERE JOB.
     
  8. halfmile

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    "There is a book out by a Marine sniper platoon (starts with Ronin)"

    How does a platoon write a book? Does each gy get a chapter? or do they all just have a whack at the typewriter?

    Producing a the only working Democracy in 22 Arab states in centuries is an awesome feat.

    As far as I care they could have been left to rot, but the accomplishment will not be equalled by any of the pukes in power.

    And if a comet hits Earth in 2012 it will be Bush's fault.

    HM
     
  9. ivanhoe

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    REA I think what is important to note here is no matter what you might think, feel, or say. It doesn't matter what your likes or dislikes are what Duyba did or didn't do.

    Those that are putting their lives on the line everyday for this country(that means you and me)have seemingly made a statement in this video. That statement is clear they are by their reaction to the two men telling anyone that will listen. Who they prefer and whether we like it or not that is the way it is.

    As far as I am concerned these young men and women are what the war on terror are all about they are doing a dirty job for all of us. So we can go to a shoot every week and post on TS.com and argue over what truck or car to by. Or which trap gun to buy.

    The first thing you can find to say is about all the things that you feel Dubya did wrong. You sure know how to support the Troops. You won't even honor the preference of these fine young people. You should be ashamed of yourself in the name of money.

    "And of course all the missing weapons and money along the way."

    None of those things seem to be an issue for the Marines in this video.

    Bob Lawless
     
  10. Holeinmypattern

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    The president can send Marines anywhere in the world without the approval of congress for 90 days. After that congress must approve any further action. This is why Marines are called "the presidents own".

    -John
    USMC 93-2001
     
  11. REA

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    HM,

    The title is Ronin: a Marine scout/sniper platoon in Iraq. by Mike Tucker.
    If you are interested, see if your library can get it for you. It tells of their different experiences over there.


    Ivanhoe,
    As far as supporting the troops, they all volunteeered so they shouldn't expect our support. Nobody twisted their arm. I don't believe in these wars and they don't belong over there. They aren't fighting for our country.

    Ask some WWII combat veterans who fought in the Pacific and they will tell you the same thing. Are you saying they should be ashamed?

    I'm wondering if those few supporters had a cushy job behind the lines and were just politicing for a better job.
     
  12. bigdogtx

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    REA,,,,you are mistaken,,,,they are the troops of the US and wherever our leaders send them, whether you or anyone else likes it, THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR COUNTRY,,,,if you want them to only fight the wars that "you" like or agree with,,,,there is an election in 2012, and all you have to do is win!!!!!!!!!!!


    There will always be whiners and if you base your opinions on only the dissenters you will never understand what the MAJORITY of the troops feel.
     
  13. Setterman

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    REA, I wish you had a loved one in Iraq. Then tell them "they're not fighting for thier country". The fact that they are volunteers, makes it even more courageous. It's easy to make statements like that when your ass or a loved one's isn't in harms way. Maybe you should go over with Barry and "negotiate".
     
  14. ivanhoe

    ivanhoe Well-Known Member

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    REA

    "As far as supporting the troops, they all volunteeered so they shouldn't expect our support. Nobody twisted their arm. I don't believe in these wars and they don't belong over there. They aren't fighting for our country."

    Let me see you said "I don't believe in these wars and they don't belong over there." So judging by that statement your not believing make Dubya a bad President. Tell me if you don't believe in murder does that mean it doesn't exist?

    REA I will tell you what lets take you to those Marines and you can tell them that "They aren't fighting for our country"

    Just what tells you they aren't fighting for this country, your own beliefs.

    So all the troops volunteered and they shouldn't expect any support. I guess we just dump them off in the desert and say you're on your own boys and girls.

    I think you should get a few things right in your mind. When this country votes to go to War whether you like or believe in it, it is out of your hands. The US Military Personnel that are over there did not ask to go to war. With that being said your belief that that they aren't fighting this country. This whole war was started after this country was attacked more than once with 9/11 being the last time.

    There haven't been any attacks since the Iraq war started of course that wouldn't have anything to do with our Military being in Iraq.

    "Ask some WWII combat veterans who fought in the Pacific and they will tell you the same thing."

    Well if you are so sure a bout WWII combat ask they why they were in the Pacific. Let me know what they say I would be very interested in the answer.

    Bob Lawless
     
  15. shadow

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    REA, If you want to really find out if those brave Marines are fighting for our country,just get up in a Marines' face and tell him he is a stooge !

    My money is on the Marine to show who the REAL stooge is.
     
  16. bill1949

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    Is this REA a moveon.org retard? Sure sounds like one...Bill
     
  17. JBrooks

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    Hundreds of thousands of real Americans have given their lives and suffered life changing injuries so that ungrateful pukes like REA can live free, spout foolish, hateful drivel and vote for scum like Gore, Kerry and Obama.

    Doesn't seem right, does it?
     
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