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Which Party Do You Trust???

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by bigdogtx, Sep 24, 2008.

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2006
    A different way to look at our elected officials, or maybe the way we should look at them. Maybe the Pilgrims had it right, NO BARRISTERS ALLOWED!!!

    The Lawyers Party

    This is very interesting! I never thought about it this way. Perhaps this is why so many physicians are conservatives or republicans. Well, what do you all think?

    A thoughtful point of view:

    The Democrat Party has become the Lawyers' Party. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are lawyers. Bill Clinton and Michelle Obama are lawyers. John Edwards, the other former Democrat candidate for president, is a lawyer, and so is his wife, Elizabeth. Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did not graduate). Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd Bentsen, went to law school. Look at the Democrat Party in Congress: the Majority Leader in each house is a lawyer.

    The Republican Party is different. President Bush and Vice President Cheney were not lawyers, but businessmen. The leaders of the Republican Revolution were not lawyers. Newt Gingrich was a history professor; Tom Delay was an exterminator; and, Dick Armey was an economist. House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer, not a lawyer. The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon.

    Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer? Gerald Ford, who left office 31 years ago and who barely won the Republican nomination as a sitting president, running against Ronald Reagan in 1976. The Republican Party is made up of real people doing real work. The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse them selves in history, like Gingrich.

    The Lawyers' Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and services that people want, as the enemies of America . And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers' Party, grow.

    Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in our nation.

    This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the eyes of lawyers. Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their clients, in this case the American people. Lawyers seek to have new laws passed, they seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to overturn precedent, and lawyers always parse language to favor their side.

    Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine. But it is an awful way to govern a great nation. When politicians as lawyers begin to view some Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing parties, then the role of the legal system in our life becomes all-consuming. Some Americans become 'adverse parties' of our very government. We are not all litigants in some vast social class-action suit. We are citizens of a republic that promises us a great deal of freedom from laws, from courts, and from lawyers.

    Today, we are drowning in laws; we are contorted by judicial decisions; we are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of our once private lives. America has a place for laws and lawyers, but that place is modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked. When the most important decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the Supreme Court, the role of lawyers and the law in America is too big. When lawyers use criminal prosecution as a continuation of politics by other means, as happened in the lynching of Scooter Libby and Tom Delay, then the power of lawyers in America is too great. When House Democrats sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has become crushing.

    We cannot expect the Lawyers' Party to provide real change, real reform, or real hope in America . Most Americans know that a republic in which every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges is not what Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our defenders. Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our economy.

    Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to our nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American society and business. Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the mouths of lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work. Perhaps Americans will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more power will only make our problems worse.When you ask most people who they trust the least lawyers rank last in most polls.
  2. Big Az Al

    Big Az Al Well-Known Member

    Jun 2, 2006
    near Tucson Trap
    And pardon me when I add...............

    This is why the Dums will block a flat tax on income! Can you imagine all the LAWYERS that SPECIALIZE in tax law loopholes having to find another line of work! It would be shear pacnic in the ranks of lawyers!

    And while there are DRUGS that scare the holy S*** out of me,

    MAKE them legal, that way five dollars worth of drugs out side this country will only be worth what 10 or 15 dollars, just NOT ENOUGH mark up to make it worth dealing in! Take the big payday off the table and smuggling pretty much goes away!

  3. JH

    JH Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    BARACK denies he is a MUSLIM and an ARAB. Here is proof to the contrary:

    My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President.. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
    *http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African & http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African
  4. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    I don't trust the Republicans, and I trust the Democrats even less.
  5. Tron

    Tron Supporting Vendor Supporting Vendor

    Jan 29, 1998
    They are both equally screwing us, make no mistake. Our only hope in the future is that people finally get fed up enough and vote Libertarian.

  6. grnberetcj

    grnberetcj Active Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Trust is a "Intangible" item that should be earned by deed and principles. Neither party and most (as in most) politicians have not earned the trust of the american voters/taxpayers.

  7. Andy Moreland

    Andy Moreland TS Member

    Jul 11, 2008
    " Neither party and most (as in most) politicians have not earned the trust of the american voters/taxpayers."

    but someone else wisely observed...

    "In a representative democracy, the people have exactly the kind of government they deserve because they continue to choose their leaders from among that class of individuals who actually want the job."

    Andy Moreland
  8. SeldomShoots

    SeldomShoots Active Member

    Oct 25, 2006
    I'll go with NEITHER also. John E.
  9. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    I don't trust either party but the Republicans will be on the right side of the fence sometimes whereas the Democrats will always be on the left side. I prefer the right side.
  10. Jerbear

    Jerbear TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
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  11. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    I have a difficult time trusting anyone in government. I'll second the vote for Libertarian. Why is it that we the people accept this sorry buch of liars that we have running what should be the greatest country in the world.
  12. recurvyarcher

    recurvyarcher Well-Known Member

    Apr 26, 2006
    Jim Miller, what a novel idea. I like it.

    Of course, since an existing president would have to stay in office until a successful election could be held, how would the public be ensured that THAT loophole would not be excerisized to our detriment?
  13. drh08

    drh08 TS Member

    Jun 30, 2006
    I trust neither party and pretty much politicians in general. The entire system is destined to fail. It's like the car salesman saying he is going to get you the best deal possible. Look what a politician must do, and ask yourself if there can really be any other outcome. Lets see to get the job you need votes, to get the votes you need to promise the people voting for that you they will get something for voting for you. This usually means some sort of a raid on the treasury, be it tax cuts, money hand out or however you wish to look at it. So you find the group with the most votes, promise them stuff and give it to them. Here is the problem, what is good for the segment of the group may not be good for the country. If you act on what is good for the county you simply get voted out and someone else steps in that will give the majority what they think they need. Yup we are a selfish people and look out for ourselves first and we vote to make ourselves better, not necessary the country. So if you are making money you want to vote for someone that will let you keep as much as possible. If you are broke, you vote for someone that will give the other guys money. There isn't room for honesty and what is best for the country in anything, because we as a voting population don't allow it.

    Just my thoughts.
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