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Which 20 Gauge Hull to Reload?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by UpNorthMN, Apr 4, 2011.

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  1. UpNorthMN

    UpNorthMN Active Member

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    I'm going to start reloading 20 gauge target loads in a few months for skeet and want to start collecting the empties.

    I've never reloaded 20 gauge before.

    Are AA and STS the same quality? Which of these should I reload... or something else?

    David
     
  2. timb99

    timb99 Well-Known Member

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    <i>Are AA and STS the same quality?</i>

    Yeah, pretty much. I use STS's and Gun Clubs for 12 gauge, but for whatever reason I use AA's for 20 gauge. They work fine.
     
  3. CLP101

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    AA's work better of the two, but I picked up some Estate empties at the club one day and tried them. They work great with the light loads for my kids.3/4 oz of #8 using 13g of Int Clays, Win primers, and WWAA20 wads.1180fps and they don't kick even in my really light Win 1300 junior.
     
  4. benniesdad

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    CLP101 just hurt my feelings because that light load he loads for his kids is my primary 20ga load these days in an AA HS hull. I like using the AA HS hull over the STS in this application because it is slightly shorter and crimps perfect with 3/4 oz loads. I use STS and old AA CF hulls for my 7/8 oz loads.

    That said, only one word of advice - if you are using a Browning O/U I would stay away from the AA HS hulls because of misfires in the lower barrel. The AA HS hulls have a thin head (rim) and if the primer is seated too deep it will result in light strikes and misfires. Browning and others offer a fix of a slightly longer firing pin for the lower barrel on 12ga guns, but doesn't offer any such thing for the small gauges. I almost hate to mention this here because it is like talking about sudden acceleration in Toyota's. I shoot AA HS all day long in my Beretta 686 without a problem, but with my Browning 425 it has been a constant problem even after changing out firing pins and springs. JMHO.
     
  5. UpNorthMN

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    Thanks for all the great input.

    What is the difference between the AA HS and AA CF hull? How do I tell the difference?

    David
     
  6. WCW4269

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    Hey Up north, I like the STS cases. I've been getting around 13 loads out of them before they burn through on the sides. I'm using a 7/8th's Oz. load with 15.0 gr. Unique, a WAA20 wad, or claybuster, and WW-209's or Nobel Sport's [after 6 or 7 reloads]. MV = 1155 F.P.S. Bill
     
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    Remington STS or, for a distant "second" if you do not mind the steel heads on the Gun Clubs, they should work.
    Regards, Ed
     
  8. benniesdad

    benniesdad TS Member

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    AA CF = compression formed which were the old one piece AA hulls that are no longer in production.

    AA HS = high strength which are the current AA hulls that have a separate base wad that is glued into the hull.

    Pictured below from left to right STS, AA CF, three different AA HS hulls. The current AA HS has a shiny finish on the outside compared to the older AA CF hull.


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  9. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    I prefer the Remington STS hull for my hunting loads. I have a few of the Winchester HS hull buckle when in the final crimp of my Ponsness/Warren reloader.

    Tom Strunk

    ???? Hap has been staying at my house the past two nights and I see he has made some changes to my computer, I see his name on this post not mine. I'll have to change this.
     
  10. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    Aw shucks buddy, jist leave it and maybe WP will ask me who this Tom Strunk guy is? :)

    I too prefer the Rem hulls!

    Hap
     
  11. Royce10

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    STS for 7/8 loads. You can't get 7/8 in a AA without a 1 oz wad.
     
  12. timb99

    timb99 Well-Known Member

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    <i>You can't get 7/8 in a AA without a 1 oz wad.</i>

    I use Universal Clays and have used both the Winchester WAA20 wad and the Versalite wad, and both fit fine.
     
  13. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    I like the STS myself....I load them with Win Super Field powder and it patterns and functions great out of my 20ga 11-87..with a LM choke and 7/8oz of #8 ..I shoot the entire sporting course without changing a thing
     
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