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When stuff was still made in USA

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Bushmaster1313, Aug 21, 2011.

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  1. Bushmaster1313

    Bushmaster1313 Well-Known Member

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    Ithaca 4E Knick April 14, 1927:




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  2. W.P.T.

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    Over the years the machinery that was used by American Craftsmen to make the American made products have all been destroyed, worn out, or sold to other countrys ... We Americans are in many ways our own biggest enemy for letting it happen and or by electing Political leaders who boasted about the American way in one speech and then gave it away (sold it) it another ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  3. GW22

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    LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

    Great pics too.

    -Gary
     
  4. BILL GRILL

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    Lou, Nice presentation! We Americans are not our worst enemy! Our goverment is our worst enemy. Time to take it back! Vote em out in 2012, all of them!
     
  5. trapshootin hippie

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    I was hoping to see some "stuff". Nice gun though.

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  6. W.P.T.

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    We Americans are in many ways our own biggest enemy for letting it happen and or by electing Political leaders who boasted about the American way in one speech and then gave it away (sold it) it another ... WPT ... (YAC) ...


    "LETTING IT HAPPEN AND OR BY ELECTING POLITICAL LEADERS WHO BOASTED ABOUT THE "THE AMERICAN WAY IN ONE SPEECH AND THEN GAVE IT AWAY (SOLD IT) IN ANOTHER" ...

    I stand corrected, wait a minute I said the same thing Bill Grill said but in different words ... VOTE in 2012, your future will depend on it ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  7. Trapboy1957

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    I know a dude in Japan that wants that gun. How much? Hippie Hawaii is in the USA. Jr
     
  8. GW22

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    I decided to delete this unrelated post. This thread deserves better.

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  9. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    Didn't God make Adam and Eve and not Adam and Edward?
     
  10. noknock1

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    Part of the problem are those that don't believe in the GOD part....
     
  11. wayneo

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    Bushmaster........What camera are you using for those close-ups???

    Thanks

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  12. Bushmaster1313

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    An old beat-up Casio Exilim 7.2 megapixels

    The trick is to stand back about 2 feet and zoom all the way in strong diffuse light. Even a blind pig finds an acorn on occasion!

    Take a lot of shots at slightly different angles and sometimes one comes out good.
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  13. 221

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    When stuff was still

    The government has had it's share of the blame......Just don't forget that lawyers, architects, and engineers have had more influence on our market being flooded with disposable goods than our government.

    Lawyers and engineers are a much bigger threat to American business than our government, our government just lets them operate without oversight.

    Ya think I'm full of it, just look at that Ithaca and look at a new Remington.....look at a 150 year old house and look at todays developments, houses built on 4" slabs and 4" block, and 11/32" roof sheathing.....

    No the government did not do that to us....we've educated our youth to the point where they will sell out their grandmother for a new pair of sunglasses, and a tattoo.


    Look at the hubbub over the KX-6.....the purchasers of today and tomorrow don't give a damn whether the wood is genuine exotic grain, they only care about the appearance......same with Berettas. That attitude is in every product today.....all Americans care about is the appearance, whether genuine or not. We have become a Faux Pas society...who cares nothing about our heritage or for leaving our children any for that matter.

    We have bred and educated a society of loser's that think as long as we can out kill our neighbors we will prevail......the rest of the world, mean while,,, is going to have the American empire for brunch.
     
  14. timb99

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    Yeah 221, those doggone engineers are a pestilence to society.

    Its too bad Americans have to put up with reliable electric service, water service, gas service, telephone, and cell phone service. Stop lights and street lights and roads and interstates? Damn shame.

    Its too bad cars aren't built the way they used to be, you know, unreliable heavy hunks of metal that were unsafe to drive and unsafe in an accident, and got 8 miles per gallon.

    Oh, and that 150 year old house? Sturdy and well built, no doubt. Leaked like a seive and took a ton of energy to heat. Oh, and they didn't have air conditioning either. Try building one of those today with the construction methods they used back then. It would cost you a million dollars for the labor to build it that way.

    Oh, that air conditioning you like in the summer? And central heating in the winter? Thank an engineer for that.

    The nifty electronic circuits in that computer that you used to write the nonsense above, and the communications links that got it to my computer? Thank an engineer for that.

    Yeah, you're right. Engineers are just bad characters. We should get rid of the entire lot of them.
     
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    tim , once again your words of wit have made my point........please tell us that your so far advanced as an engineer that you have to work in south africa.....the qualifications to get an American job a little over your head EEEHHHH? Good ole data table tim, hell anybody can reference data tables.

    For 1 good product produced by engineer direction , there a 100 more that are a disaster.......I make a good living fixing engineering problems that the learned, overpaid engr's have f~~~ed up.....I say, keep it up we appreciate the extra work.

    See that's my point. we sent tim to school and I'll bet he has yet to have his name on a system or bridge a building a processes.....he may just be one of 100's of low buck engineers that flood the african and arab job sites

    They're ain't much to re engineer when it comes to public utilities.......a civil engineers job is only one step above the team that has to put up with him going for coffee every half hour.
     
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    Wow. Bitter.

    Couldn't make the grades in engineering school 221?
     
  17. PhilG

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    Those are some of the most beautiful guns i have ever saw! Being young and dumb (35) years old, what is the second gun you pictured and is there guns like the ithaca still out there for sale somewhere? I love my 1957 model 37 16 ga and would love to know more about the guns. Thanks Phil
     
  18. Bushmaster1313

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    Second gun is a 1919 Baker Elite

    About 5740 Ithaca 4E Knicks were made between about 1925 and 1980

    They go for about 1500 and up in good condition on Gunbroker.

    Mine was a steal at about $980
     
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    Dang, why the personal attack on "timb". If you can't prove your point without attacking someones personal life you shouldn't do it. That's pretty low.
     
  20. John Galt

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    What grntitan said goes for me too.
     
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