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When are we going to say 'Thats enough'?

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Yosemite Sam, Feb 5, 2009.

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  1. Yosemite Sam

    Yosemite Sam TS Member

    Dec 18, 2007
    When are we going to say

    <a href=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/obama_guantanamo>Link to Article</a>

    Charges dropped vs. suspect in 2000 USS Cole blast

    By LARA JAKES, Associated Press Writer Lara Jakes, Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON – The Pentagon's senior judge overseeing terror trials at Guantanamo Bay dropped charges Thursday against an al-Qaida suspect in the 2000 USS Cole bombing, upholding President Barack Obama's order to freeze military tribunals there. The charges against suspected al-Qaida bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri marked the last active Guantanamo war crimes case.

    The legal move by Susan J. Crawford, the top legal authority for military trials at Guantanamo, brings all cases into compliance with Obama's Jan. 22 executive order to halt terrorist court proceedings at the U.S. Navy base in Cuba.

    Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said Crawford dismissed the charges against al-Nashiri without prejudice. That means new charges can be brought again later. He will remain in prison for the time being.

    "It was her decision, but it reflects the fact that the president has issued an executive order which mandates that the military commissions be halted, pending the outcome of several reviews of our operations down at Guantanamo," Morrell said late Thursday night.

    The ruling also gives the White House time to review the legal cases of all 245 terror suspects held there and decide whether they should be prosecuted in the U.S. or released to other nations.

    Obama was expected to meet with families of Cole and 9/11 victims at the White House on Friday afternoon to announce the move.

    Seventeen U.S. sailors died on Oct. 12, 2000, when al-Qaida suicide bombers steered an explosives-laden boat into the Cole, a guided-missile destroyer, as it sat in a Yemen port.

    The Pentagon last summer charged al-Nashiri, a Saudi Arabian, with "organizing and directing" the bombing and planned to seek the death penalty in the case.

    In his Jan. 22 order, Obama promised to shut down the Guantanamo prison within a year. The order also froze all Guantanamo detainee legal cases pending a three-month review as the Obama administration decides where — or whether — to prosecute the suspects who have been held there for years, most without charges.

    Two military judges granted Obama's request for a delay in other cases.

    But a third military judge, Army Col. James Pohl, defied Obama's order by scheduling a Feb. 9 arraignment for al-Nashiri at Guantanamo. That left the decision on whether to continue to Crawford, whose delay on announcing what she would do prompted widespread concern at the Pentagon that she would refuse to follow orders and allow the court process to continue.

    Retired Navy Cmdr. Kirk S. Lippold, the commanding officer of the Cole when it was bombed in Yemen in October 2000, said he will be among family members of Cole and 9/11 victims who are meeting with Obama at the White House on Friday afternoon.

    Groups representing victims' families were angered by Obama's order, charging they had waited too long already to see the alleged attackers brought to court.

    "I was certainly disappointed with the decision to delay the military commissions process," Lippold, now a defense adviser to Military Families United, said in an interview Thursday night. "We have already waited eight years. Justice delayed is justice denied. We must allow the military commission process to go forward."

    Crawford was appointed to her post in 2007 by then-President George W. Bush. She was in the news last month when she said interrogation methods used on one suspect at Guantanamo amounted to torture. The Bush administration had maintained it did not torture.

    Last year, al-Nashiri said during a Guantanamo hearing that he confessed to helping plot the Cole bombing only because he was tortured by U.S. interrogators. The CIA has admitted he was among terrorist suspects subjected to waterboarding, which simulates drowning, in 2002 and 2003 while being interrogated in secret CIA prisons.
  2. b12

    b12 Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Their is not enough people left in this country that have enough backbone to stand up to this crazyness.
  3. skeet100

    skeet100 Member

    Jun 3, 2007
    Well we had several choices for President this one promised the most hand outs and he won........

    One thing to note: He is doing what he said he would do. Bush did not.

    There is a BIG lesson to be learned in this.
  4. BT-100dc

    BT-100dc Active Member

    Nov 7, 2008
    The type of thinking here is what causes these terrorist events to recur; if we revert to the pre-9/11 mindset, we'll be doomed to repeat it. Talk about a bad economy, should people be fearful of being attacked, then we are then slaves in our homes. Remember, without security you have no economy; that is why people rate security down the list of their priorities?? They seem to be more concerned over how the Cleveland Indians will do this year. Darrell
  5. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2006
    Well,,,,hussein thinks it is ok to open the doors of Guantanamo and let them out,,,,NOW,,,,he just has to figure out what to do with them,,,,Washington DC seems like a good place for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  6. highflyer

    highflyer TS Member

    Feb 1, 2006
    The people in charge now are the same people that didn't think the terrorism threat was ever real. The same that blamed Bush for all the strife in the world. They really convinced themselves that it would all be over if they could just get rid of Bush. Boy are they in for a rude awakening. We are now being run by those same freaks you saw in old 60's films taking drugs and wearing multi-colored striped bell bottoms and flowers preaching love not war. Those same enemies of capitalism and freedom around the globe. Now they are in charge. They run the media and the government.
  7. k80cmbo

    k80cmbo TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    When they turn these killers loose to kill again,I hope they start in Washington.
  8. grunt

    grunt TS Supporters TS Supporters

    Jan 29, 1998
    Thousand Oaks Ca
    Or maybe chicago.
  9. J.Woolsey

    J.Woolsey Member

    Aug 12, 2007
    The SOB is a Muslim. He was, is and always will be. Oh I forgot to mention he's a Communist Muslim. God help the USA. J.Woolsey
  10. slide action

    slide action Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Remember the majority of those that voted didn't want the war hero who served over 20 years in the military. They wanted the vote buying "street pimp" who had less than 4 months of actually being on the job in the senate. In the end it was all about two groups of people. Those who voted for him soley on the color of his skin, and the brain dead idiots who just wanted FREE STUFF! America has been handed over to gutless, weak kneed, feel good, liberal terrorist lovers who think if there is just one big "group hug" and if you kiss their murdering terrorist @$$, then all will be fairy land perfect. This country is in for a ROUGH ride!!!
  11. Trappy12

    Trappy12 Active Member

    Jul 12, 2006
    Anyone missing the part where they are "Set free"? I didn't read that anywhere, could somebody point that out to me? Yes I know their "trials" are being halted, but that obviously doesn't mean we're going to let them lose. Get real.
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