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Whats Next for Las Vegas Trapshooting

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by DBax, Sep 15, 2008.

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  1. DBax

    DBax TS Member

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    Las Vegas is building a huge trapshooting club "Clark County Shooting Park" where are they headed with this , 120 traps ? , the Mint gun club never needed anything that big ....looks like they have plans, and also a club called the Presidents , with 2 indoor trap ranges..wow
     
  2. trim tab

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    Initial phass will be 24 combo trap/skeet field and I think that will be plenty. On schedule for June 09 opening. Don Turner who is heading up the project for the county has his finger on it and progessing nicely. No intention of holding the grand in Las Vegas.
     
  3. scott calhoun

    scott calhoun Well-Known Member

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    Trim Tab -

    Is your screen name an aviation reference?

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  4. mixer

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    Then click on the shooting range link for full info. The range layout is impressive.


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  5. tj303

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    "The $61 million, 225-acre first phase, expected to open in January 2008, will feature a 30-site host area for RV camping; a clay target center with 96 RV spaces and a 24 combination trap and skeet field with a 5,000-square-foot building with a pro shop and cafeteria; an archery building with a 30-seat classroom and restrooms; a “known-distance” archery range; a public rifle and pistol range with a pro shop and convenience store; and a hunter education center with a 90-seat classroom with archery, rifle, pistol and shotgun ranges and a simulated hunting course. Almost $30 million of the total cost will pay for extending utilities and Decatur Boulevard about a mile to the site as well as flood control facilities.

    When completed, the project will be a world-class park with facilities for local sport shooting enthusiasts as well as accommodations for major national shooting events. Planned amenities not mentioned above include an indoor range, public day-use ranges, tactical ranges, rifle and pistol silhouette ranges, a bench rest range, a cowboy mounted shooting arena and a 1,200-yard high-power rifle range. A 35-seat classroom will accompany each range. Shotgun enthusiasts will benefit from 125 trap and 24 skeet ranges as well as sporting clays and international trap facilities. Archers will have an International Archery Federation (FITA)-approved archery range and three field courses."

    WOW! I might have a reason to go to Vegas.

    http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/depts/parks/locations/Pages/shooting_park.aspx
     
  6. jbbor

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    If you liked the background of the old Bob Taylor's club, you'll love this new one. Most of their total construction money has been spent on dirt and drainage work. Over a year late and over budget. At least that's what I've been told. Locals??? Jimmy Borum
     
  7. primed

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    "When completed, the project will be a world-class park with facilities for local sport shooting enthusiasts as well as accommodations for major national shooting events. Planned amenities not mentioned above include an indoor range, public day-use ranges, tactical ranges, rifle and pistol silhouette ranges, a bench rest range, a cowboy mounted shooting arena and a 1,200-yard high-power rifle range. A 35-seat classroom will accompany each range. Shotgun enthusiasts will benefit from 125 trap and 24 skeet ranges as well as sporting clays and international trap facilities.

    If they have "No intention of holding the grand in Las Vegas" why do they plan on 125 trap fields when complete? Isn't that about the same number as Sparta?

    I drove out and looked at the grounds last month and it is massive. My understanding is that it is 1000 acres larger than Sparta.

    Bob
     
  8. bocephus

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    I would like to see it alternate between Sparta and Vegas, that way it would balance out for everyone.
     
  9. smoke100

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    To clarify a few points:

    The initial "Public Phase" (which is fully funded) will include 24 overlaid skeet/trap fields - any expansion of the other four phases of 24 trap fields each will have to be funded by donations from organizations who wish to use the additional capacity for competitions. No interest=no money=no expansion.

    A lawsuit has been filed by local homeowners (the nearest is a mile away) to stop the project on the basis of noise interfering with their quality of life, potential ricochets killing children in schoolyards and the potential risk to residents from people with guns driving through their neighborhood. (You can't make this stuff up!!!) I understand that an injunction has been granted on the basis of this lawsuit but it's not clear whether it is to stop construction or prevent operation. So the opening date may be postponed pending this legal action.

    Additionally, the business plan and financial projections are very optimistic and rely on attracting large numbers of tourists (both domestic and international) five days a week year-round. The continued operation of the Shooting Park will be dependent upon revenue generated from operations as there will be no public money spent for expansion or operations. So there is some question as to whether it will be able to sustain itself.

    As far as competitions, the county has no plans to host any. Their plan is to provide the facility and have individuals or organizations put on events with the county receiving payment on the basis of the number of targets/rounds fired. A Spring Grand or something similar is possible but the night leagues and ATA shoots which are now held at the Las Vegas Gun Club (whose lease will not be renewed once the Shooting Park opens) will cease unless someone steps up to put them on. Quite frankly, most of the local trap shooters do not view the new project positively as it will mean the loss of Steve Carmichael and his well-run LVGC, and no reasonable expectation of something equal or better to replace them.

    These negatives aside, Don Turner, who is in charge of developing the Park, apparently has a proven track record for a similar successful operation at Ben Avery in Phoenix so pessimism may not be justified.
     
  10. smoke100

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    To clarify a few points:

    The initial "Public Phase" (which is fully funded) will include 24 overlaid skeet/trap fields - any expansion of the other four phases of 24 trap fields each will have to be funded by donations from organizations who wish to use the additional capacity for competitions. No interest=no money=no expansion.

    A lawsuit has been filed by local homeowners (the nearest is a mile away) to stop the project on the basis of noise interfering with their quality of life, potential ricochets killing children in schoolyards and the potential risk to residents from people with guns driving through their neighborhood. (You can't make this stuff up!!!) I understand that an injunction has been granted on the basis of this lawsuit but it's not clear whether it is to stop construction or prevent operation. So the opening date may be postponed pending this legal action.

    Additionally, the business plan and financial projections are very optimistic and rely on attracting large numbers of tourists (both domestic and international) five days a week year-round. The continued operation of the Shooting Park will be dependent upon revenue generated from operations as there will be no public money spent for expansion or operations. So there is some question as to whether it will be able to sustain itself.

    As far as competitions, the county has no plans to host any. Their plan is to provide the facility and have individuals or organizations put on events with the county receiving payment on the basis of the number of targets/rounds fired. A Spring Grand or something similar is possible but the night leagues and ATA shoots which are now held at the Las Vegas Gun Club (whose lease will not be renewed once the Shooting Park opens) will cease unless someone steps up to put them on. Quite frankly, most of the local trap shooters do not view the new project positively as it will mean the loss of Steve Carmichael and his well-run LVGC, and no reasonable expectation of something equal or better to replace them.

    These negatives aside, Don Turner, who is in charge of developing the Park, apparently has a proven track record for a similar successful operation at Ben Avery in Phoenix so pessimism may not be justified.
     
  11. smoke100

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    To clarify a few points:

    The initial "Public Phase" (which is fully funded) will include 24 overlaid skeet/trap fields - any expansion of the other four phases of 24 trap fields each will have to be funded by donations from organizations who wish to use the additional capacity for competitions. No interest=no money=no expansion.

    A lawsuit has been filed by local homeowners (the nearest is a mile away) to stop the project on the basis of noise interfering with their quality of life, potential ricochets killing children in schoolyards and the potential risk to residents from people with guns driving through their neighborhood. (You can't make this stuff up!!!) I understand that an injunction has been granted on the basis of this lawsuit but it's not clear whether it is to stop construction or prevent operation. So the opening date may be postponed pending this legal action.

    Additionally, the business plan and financial projections are very optimistic and rely on attracting large numbers of tourists (both domestic and international) five days a week year-round. The continued operation of the Shooting Park will be dependent upon revenue generated from operations as there will be no public money spent for expansion or operations. So there is some question as to whether it will be able to sustain itself.

    As far as competitions, the county has no plans to host any. Their plan is to provide the facility and have individuals or organizations put on events with the county receiving payment on the basis of the number of targets/rounds fired. A Spring Grand or something similar is possible but the night leagues and ATA shoots which are now held at the Las Vegas Gun Club (whose lease will not be renewed once the Shooting Park opens) will cease unless someone steps up to put them on. Quite frankly, most of the local trap shooters do not view the new project positively as it will mean the loss of Steve Carmichael and his well-run LVGC, and no reasonable expectation of something equal or better to replace them.

    These negatives aside, Don Turner, who is in charge of developing the Park, apparently has a proven track record for a similar successful operation at Ben Avery in Phoenix so pessimism may not be justified.
     
  12. smoke100

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    Sorry about the repeats - I don't do this often! If they can be deleted, let me know how and I will do so.
     
  13. trim tab

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    Scott, Answer is yes. Flying for over 33 years
     
  14. Joe Potosky

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    At the top of the page...

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  15. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    Not enough camping spots for a Spring Grand.
     
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