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What's Better than a 1957 Winchester Model 12?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Bushmaster1313, Sep 26, 2011.

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  1. Bushmaster1313

    Bushmaster1313 Well-Known Member

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    A 1957 Model 12 and a 1955 Model 88:


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  2. dcb_wvu

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    A Model 31 Remington, in my humble opinion. The Model 12s are nice but from my experience the 31 is smoother and much quicker for me to operate. I only have one Model 12 left and it will leave this fall to make room for more 31s.

    Courtney
     
  3. claybuster77

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    I have a Model 12 in 20ga. second year of production, 16,xxx serial number
     
  4. walnutmaker

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    Have a 20 ga M12 first year sn 8xx. Shoots great! Phil
     
  5. cubancigar2000

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    Model 31 is far superior to a model 12 & I have owned many model 12's. A mod 12 is a great gun but no pump is as smooth and fast as a 31
     
  6. clayscoach

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    Cubancigar2000, You are wrong about the smoothest pump being the Remington M31! I have M12's, M31's and my High Standard M200 is smoother and faster!!!
     
  7. Big Heap

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    An old friend, RIP, who was in the sporting goods business told me he had a 14ga. Model 12.

    Has anyone here ever seen a 14ga?

    His store was in the first floor of a defunct whore house - which will allow some of you to identify him.
     
  8. SX12

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    Cabelas Gun Library once had a 14 gauge model 59. Therefore a model 12 in the same gauge is at least possible. Shell casings were aluminum
    SX12
     
  9. Ross

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    Not to hi-jack a thread -But clayscoach will your m200 fall open when you press the release, & fall shut & locked if you point it muzzle down????? my 31 TC does. Ross Puls
     
  10. dcb_wvu

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    I have one TC that will do that, the field gun will not, it is still like new. A real beaut. She is a naked barrel though. I bought her to keep the other one running as parts are scarce. I have new wood to put on the TC this winter. I have a Model 12 that will be ready for sale real soon. I have got to get her put back together. It is a beautiful gun but I just prefer the R guns.
     
  11. plux001

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    The only time you should bother with a Model 12 is when you want to break some targets. If you don't care what you score, shoot something else. Any time money is on the line, I reach for my Winchester. Have yet to shoot anything that points or swings like it.

    Paul
     
  12. Bushmaster1313

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    If I may be so bold.

    To me, the Model 12 is more solid and masculine and the Model 31 is more lithe and feminine.
     
  13. Ross

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    I'm like dcb_wvu-- M31 Rems. just "feel" better to me, tried M12s when I first started shooting trap, as they were "THE" trap gun at that time, actually tried 3 different times (guns), they shot well just weren't comfortable and convenient to me, sold them and at the offer of a buddy tried his M31 TC love at first sight (try) found a used one and bought it, still shooting it (the same 31 TC about 40 years now.) Given that I'm on the wrong side of 70 I guess I'll have to pass it on to one of the boys to see if it can ever be worn out. ENJOY what you have or love and shoot it often. Ross Puls
     
  14. dcb_wvu

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    But bushmaster, perhaps we like holding feminine things...


    Sorry, like Ross says, let's shoot them. I have heard tell of shoots in Ohio where one has to have a Model 12 to shoot. I would say, open that up to the 31s too or any early American pump gun. I think I may have to start a shoot with those requirements.

    I'll post some pics on my website soon of my Model 31 and her new wood from start to finish. I've got to update the pics of the Model 12 on there anyway. My web guy used some stock photos to get me started.

    Courtney
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  15. earlybird

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    I have an awfully clean 1961 Trap (MC) M12 that was my Dad's. He bought it new, shot it in Tues night league (summer only in Mn), and a dozen or so registered shoots until he bought a farm in '64 and quit shooting. Dated technology, granted, but an awfully nice gun.
     
  16. Shooting Sailor

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    Heap - Will people be able to identify your friend because they frequented the whorehouse, or because they frequented his store? Just asking.
     
  17. W.P.T.

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    There is no such thing as a bad Model 12, just some better than others ... I have shot a few Mod 31's and many Mod 12's, the Winchesters get my vote ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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    A 1957 Winchester model 21

    warren
     
  19. Gary Waalkes

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    Any current production gun is better.
     
  20. Dr.Longshot

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    Two of them

    Gary Bryant
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