Hi, Check out the thread titled "Browning Citori Trap for sale" (or words to that effect) I don't have a dog in the fight, but that's the sort of thing I would be looking at. Kind Regards-Graham.
I use my adjustable rib CG O/U Bbls but this is far from an entry level gun. I would look at the Browning Sporting guns w/tubes I liked the GTI in 30 or 32 inch Bbls. Looking at spending $600 to $1500 if you get a good buy on a used one. Less than $2000.00 for a new one.
Back in some other century, I dabbled with bunker with a Browning Broadway and never felt the gun let me down. Today, were I close enough to do it, I'd be shooting a model 32 (Kr.) trap gun and doubt that it would let me down either. I'll opine that most any trap O/U with a mild tapered rib should be a good platform to try but a sporting gun would be better choice. Price up to age, condition, and your wallet.....Bob Dodd
I would buy a Remington 3200 for a starter gun - that's the cheapest at around $1200 - $1400. Choked right at Mod/Full, 30" barrels and only available in O/U and usually POI around 60/40 maybe 70/30.
If you want to bypass the gun progression and go straight to a competition quality gun then you're looking at Perazzi or in a pinch Beretta. Any decent quality Perazzi MX8 choked Mod/Full will get it done. You want that POI around 60/40 though.
I have a mid-seventies Browning Citori 32" O/u Full & Full. It just happens to include a matching Top Single Barrel and case - 1600.00. You could sell the top single for 600 bucks and have a nice O/U for cheep. This is a nice shooting gun.
When I was in Kerrville.. one of the Olympic shooters boyfriends came out with a 870 pump.. and asked if he could shoot it.. No one said no.. he was in the mid teens first time out..
first.. you need a gun that shoot reasonably flat.. a gun that you can move to the target quickly.. a choke at .016 or more for the first shot.. and .030 or more for the 2nd shot.. Perfect stock fit. and a really good trigger..
Most any decent O/U that you shoot well..and has a decent trigger will get you in the game.. If its not to heavy..and points well.. you'll shoot it for a while.. Try to get barrels in the 1.5KG range.. and total weight at or under 8 pounds..
The Remington 3200 would be a great start.. as the Winchester O/U 101..or lightweight Browning.. Beretta makes a lightweight 12 gauge O/U that I shot in Europe that was fantastic..
For just a little extra.. a good old Comp 1 Perazzi will be an excellent choice.. as is a MT-6 or a Krieghoff 32 with 30" barrels..
Bunker comes with a warning..It bites quickly..and to me is very rewarding.
Insane? What was the original posters question? I believe it had the words "cheapest" in it. I could be insane for all you know but you just proved to the world that you can't read and or are ignorant. I've seen many people on a budget do just fine with the Silver Reserve shooting American Trap, why would they not be able to shoot it at the European version? Is the snobbery that much worse? Not everyone can afford to start out with a Browning.
if you want to get semantic then the question was "what is the cheapest entry level gun that will get the job done".
a mossberg POS won't get the job done. doesn't matter if its cheap - it is not a competition level gun, it's just a POS and I don't mean power of suggestion.
as for you comment that not everybody can afford to start out with a browning, dude - nobody shoots a browning in competition. nobody. nice guns but nobody shoots them in competition. you want to throw around ignorant?? you obviously know NOTHING about bunker or you would know the complete unsuitability of both guns you recommended. what a rube.
If you are interested I have a Winchester Select Energy trap 30" barrels. The gun is mechanically the same as the current 101 I believe. I have 6 screw in chokes, the three factory (same as the Browning invctor plus) and three after market Carlson chokes. The price is $1100,plus shipping to your FFL holder.
The gun is quite adequate as an entry level bunker gun and will allow you to experience the game to see of you like it without a large cash outlay and without losing a great deal if you should resell.
To many games out there to shoot other than to jump heads and feet into only bunker. Have you shot it before? Don't get me wrong, go for it if that's what you want to do. These guys will give you good info. I recently found out what bunker was from these guys on here. It's a neat game. I think if I were to be looking for a somewhat all aroung gun to shoot bunker, skeet, trap, sporting and funds were an issue the Browning XS Special with a high post rib and an adjustable comb is what I'd go for. Good gun to start out with. I'll always be able to recoupe some of your cash on it also when you upgrade. I'd go have fun with the game first and see where it takes you.
Spanky & One Eye has given good advice. start out slow, & hang around the bunker fields.By the way, the guy in the picture above, well, lets just say he can shoot anything he wants too.
The over porting question was some thing I noticed also but this guy is a winner and bunker loads are fast so with all the porting he is over coming the rise in the recoil so he is faster on the second shot. This is my personal opnion but logic seems to win here.
Rule 9.4.2.7 - porting ok back to 20cm from the muzzle. I heard that porting may be banned completely down the road.
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