1. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.
    Dismiss Notice

What type of hull do I have?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by jd4020, Dec 10, 2010.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. jd4020

    jd4020 TS Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2010
    Messages:
    7
    I was given some new (old stock) Remington hulls that came from the factory already primed. The question I have is do these reload like STS hulls or do they use a different reloading recipe. Thanks, Clark
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Calkidd

    Calkidd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,325
    Location:
    Central Valley
    If I am not mistaken, I think you will load these like Gun Clubs.

    Bryan
     
  3. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    6,482
    Hopefully they aren't old enough that they use the old "97" primer. Good luck.
     
  4. superxjeff

    superxjeff Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,781
    Those are loaded like remington rxp's. Best use is just sell them to sonebody who ikes to load slugs or buckshot for rollcrimping. They will take a standard 209 primer but are way more trouble then they are worth. Getting the crimps started with a really good tool is more trouble then it's worth.

    Put it this way.. If you think you can just run them through a Mec and come up with a crimp that looks like a factory crimp, it won't happen. It will work but it won't be pretty.
     
  5. Tron

    Tron Supporting Vendor Supporting Vendor

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    6,653
    It's a Remington Peters 12 gauge.....I'd know it anywhere.
     
  6. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    190
    It looks to me like the old original high base wad style "All American" and not the current Gun Club-STS-Nitro style.

    Hard to tell from your picture but is there a flash tube that goes down about a 1/4" to the top of the primer?

    If so, it takes the short wad shown in the picture. The wad that has been used in RXP from the Mid 1970's to todays STS-Nitro WILL NOT FIT.....TOO LONG.

    It used the 209-97* primer not the smaller 57*

    Mark
    [​IMG]
     
  7. jd4020

    jd4020 TS Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2010
    Messages:
    7
    The hull does have a flash tube about a 1/4" to the top of the primer. Now I need to find some reloading data for it. Clark
     
  8. OldRemFan

    OldRemFan Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2009
    Messages:
    811
    Quite a bit of information for the All-American in the 1st edition of the Lyman shotshell handbook
     
  9. Dark Horse

    Dark Horse Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    190
    I thought I knew exactly where my 1974 Hercules Reloaders Guide was at.......but nooo.

    I remember our standard trap load using Red Dot powder was 18 1/2 grains of powder with Winchester primers. Loaded tens of thousands of that recipe using that high base wad hull. Oh, using 1 1/8 oz. shot of course. We didn't even think about using less.

    In my picture above, the lower 2 short wads we would use interchangeably.

    Good load.....Got me to the 26 yard line before I graduated high school.

    Mark
     
  10. alfermann66

    alfermann66 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    852
    Ross, I believe you'll find the Fed. GM plastic hull does not have a separate base-wad....it's one piece.

    Buz
     
  11. TC

    TC TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    931
    I have seen loose base wads in All American hulls!
     
  12. Quick 1

    Quick 1 Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2008
    Messages:
    335
    TC is right! Those old hulls were known for base wads coming lose. Use with caution.
     
  13. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    15,639
    Location:
    Green Bay Wisconsin
    You need a short wad, AA12R or R12H.

    HM
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.