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What Trap Guns Qualify as Heads Up?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by bluedsteel, Aug 1, 2010.

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  1. bluedsteel

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    Lately, I have been more and more interested in the "heads up" shooting position and the guns that are designed for this. Anyway, I am trying to determine which models are "heads up" designs. So far, my list includes:

    Krieghoff K80 Trap Special,
    Blaser F3 Super Trap,
    All Guerini Trap Guns, and the
    Perazzi MX2005, MX2008, and MX2010.

    Are there any others? Also, is there a Ljutic that is considered "heads up"?

    Thanks.

    bluedsteel
     
  2. slayer

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    I have seen a Browning bt-100 set up like that. The gun had an adjustable p.o.i. and the owner built up the cheekpiece with a stack of some sort of padding. Just about any gun with an adjustable buttplate can be set up that way, also.Bill in MI
     
  3. shot410ga

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    Ljutic Olympic rib, in the adjustable configuration. Plus it will out last any mentioned above by 3X.
     
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    Kolar TA Combo or MAX single.
     
  5. bluedsteel

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    jbmi, thanks, yes, the Kolar should be included.

    I don't see a Ljutic Olympic Rib on the company's website. I do see an adjustable "One-touch"....does this create a heads up configuration in the Ljutic?
     
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    The BT99 Plus and Citori Plus were one of the first
     
  7. Ed Y

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    I think that I shoot my Perazzi TM-9X "Heads Up"

    Ed Yanchok
     
  8. jbmi

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    You can also make any ordinary trap gun a heads up high rib using an add-on rib like Keen-sight. I put one on my 90T and it's great.
     
  9. bluedsteel

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    It appears to me that the "heads-up" guns not only have high-rib barrels, but there are also considerable dimensional changes that the manufacturers make to the stocks of these guns. I know the K80 Trap Special stock is different in several dimensions than the K80 "Classic Trap" stock.

    If it was as simple as adding a high rib to my current conventional trap gun, I would do that. But, when I simulate a high rib on my gun, the stock feels really odd, and my arm and hand positions are not really comfortable.

    When I mount a Guerini or Trap Special, the entire gun seems to fit differently, but comfortably...there seems to be more to the "heads up" gun than just a high rib. Again, this comes clear when one compares the manufacturer's stock dimensions.

    Does the TM9 series have the same stock and rib configuration as the MX2005, MX2008, and MX2010?
     
  10. bluedsteel

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    After a bit more research, it appears the TM9X is a
    heads-up" configuration from the factory. I'll add it to the list.

    Ed Yanchok, how do you like your TM9X?
     
  11. Barry C. Roach

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    Perazzi TM10,
     
  12. shot410ga

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    Call ljutic. They will make one for you, if you have the $$$$$$$.
     
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    Blaser Super Trap Special
     
  14. PerazziBigBore

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    Seitz make an Olympic rib..
     
  15. Ed Y

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    Best thing since sliced bread but instead of buying one again. I'd get a good used TM-1 and have Dennis DeVault do one of his make overs for about half the price.

    Ed Yanchok
     
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    Does this qualify as a "heads up" gun? you can alwas build your own "heads up" gun for a fraction of what a new high end gun would cost. mine was only $800 from start to finish. BYG
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    Dan Bonillas shot his old flat rib, nothing adjustable MX3 in a "heads-up" position so I don't really think it's the gun so much, but how you mount and shoot it.
     
  18. short shucker

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    Depends on how short your neck is! It doesn't need to have a tall rib to be a "heads-up" gun.

    RickN is spot on.

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  19. Rollin Oswald

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    Short shucker is correct. It is partially the length of a shooter's neck, the height of the gun mount and the drop-at-the-heel stock dimension that determines which guns can be shot heads-up.

    As was mentioned, high ribs are not required for heads-up shooting. Factory high rib guns have stocks that are less crooked with the benefits that design offers (reduced barrel rise during recoil and allowing shooters to look through the center of their shooting lenses. This can be beneficial for shooters using strongeer lens corrections.

    Rollin
     
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