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What option to play at the GRAND?

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by eric, Jul 30, 2007.

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  1. eric

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    This will be my first grand (hopefully not the last) and I will shoot all events of Grand Week. I am shooting crapy HC now, singles fair and doubles - well, it just depends. Question - what options should I play? Stay with just the Lewis or is that not a good choice because of the number of people there? Should I just play some money on the HC's or play it all and hope for the best (I never know when a good score is coming). Or just shoot the targets and not worry about it? Suggestions???

    Eric Olson
     
  2. phirel

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    Eric, gamble as much as you want to have fun. Do not enter the options with the expectation of making money. For every dollar that someone wins is lost by someone else. It takes a lot of small losers to make one big winner.

    Pat Ireland
     
  3. shotgunfun

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    Eric,

    I don't know your age......so I will put this in here. Sub Junior and Junior shooters can shoot reduced targets IF they don't play any options......BUT your decision about options is made for the ENTIRE grand. If a sub junior or junior shooter wants to play options say the last 2 days of the grand but not any other time during the grand...they have to pay full price targets from the first event they shoot on. They can not change their minds later in the week. This is from the preliminary week on. in other words, you can't even shoot 1/2 price targets for the prelim week and change to full and shoot options during the grand week. whenever you start shooting........that is the way you are at anytime and forever during the Grand.

    Some use that as their option and figure they won that savings amount.

    Just thought I would mention it on here because I didn't know how it worked the first year we attended the grand...so many younger shooters may not know how it works. This way, they will.

    Good Luck either way! and HAVE FUN! that is the name of this game!

    Lorna Hull
     
  4. eric

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    My Age - well lets just say my Kids would not qualify as Junior shooters even if they were 10 years younger......

    Eric
     
  5. W.P.T.

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    If your going to hit, the Grand is the place to do it ... How would you like to run a 100 straight in the Grand American Handicap and not have any options played, or how would you like to play all of the options and shoot a 79 ..? The choice is yours and yours alone, Good Luck in what ever you decide to do ... When I went to the Grand I played the money because if you win its the best place to get a return on your money or lose a bunch, its like going to the Casino only with guns ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  6. shotgunfun

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    lol.....ok, well my information was unneeded......sorry! :eek:) But it is information anyway...


    Lorna
     
  7. Mike Michalski

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    Eric, I don't play options at any registered events throughout the year EXCEPT for the Grand. Unless you are really good and really consistent, even the Lewis is not a good odds payback. But at the Grand there is enough money that a good score will usually pay back something. Never enough to be profitable but it can pay for itself and maybe some expenses.

    I'm just learning to shoot doubles so I don't do any options at the Grand. I do play the Lewis and the yardage/class in singles and handicap though. As Pat said, play for the fun of it; as few of us are good enough to consistently make money on options.
     
  8. Neil Winston

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    Shoot the first few few events playing "fantasy options," that is keep track of what you might have bet and see what the payout would have been. Go from there - and my bet is you won't play much after you see what you would have lost.

    Lewis is a fool's bet unless you probably break them all. Yardage group is a possible, Class is a possible. Jackpot is out, as is any such "open" option.

    Neil
     
  9. RLC323

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    Neil has it right about the lewis in singles and doubles. Break them all and get paid, but the rest of the scores below the top are too numerous to reward a decent payout, too many splits. Handicap lewis is usually better at the Grand, I have seen nice rewards for 87's on windy days, sometimes that bottom handicap lewis class pays off very well.

    Personally I like to play the yardage group purse because I feel like I am on equal ground with the other competitors, probably the most "fair" purse for a long yardage shooter. Besides if I get no return I have only lost to those at my yardage, if a shooter can win it from 27, I feel they deserve it.

    As others have said before, play only what you can afford to lose and you will never feel like a loser.
     
  10. stokinpls

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    If you can't shoot an 85 or better don't play the Lewis' in doubles or handicap. With singles, 90 is my cutoff. At least when you play the Lewis, after your first miss, you're still alive. If you don't play, one lost target and you're shooting for pride. Good luck.
     
  11. RLC323

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    Hi stokinpls, hope to see you at the Grand!
     
  12. jbmi

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    I'm a fair shooter but have passed on all options. I just don't see me shooting back to back 100's on any event.
    I did get in on the Grand Gun Option, D/U Purse, and contributed to the Scolarship , these are nothing but raffle tickets but I have been lucky on these in the past.
    I'd sure like to score on the Krieghoff 100 Shoot Out though.
    Just going down to have fun, I'll save my option money for vendors row.
     
  13. Dahaub

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    Play all the options you want to and if you really shoot well you will win what everyone else is dreaming about. Those that shoot only targets are afraid they will give 20 dollars to someone who they think is a professional. One thing to remember about playing any of the options is that "If you shoot at all you are on a gamble" so why not play the options and win a lot if you happen to be on. Dan
     
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    MY buddy decided not to play any of the 25/50 options this last week at the Pacific Grand. He hit his first 50 straight and was kicking himself.

    When you dont play the options is when you'll hit 'em...heh. Murphy's Law.

    Me, I played just about all of them (though my skill level says i shouldnt)...and of course I lost most of it. Though I did hit my first lewis option. So, I won back $33 of my $202 entry fee. Unless i picked up some on doubles...couldnt hang around until they finished.

    I just know that eventually I will be "in the zone" and run 25, 50, or a hundred...

    meh...it's only money. :)
     
  15. juststartin'

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    I can tell you, for a fact, a story of a shooter from Illinois (I won't state his name) who, in 2005, wasn't shooting handicap very well during the Grand week. His buddies kept telling him to play the whole card for the GAH, that he was due. He told them no. He, along with two other individuals, run the 100 straight. I believe the other 2 played the whole card. Two-way split only...

    Now, this guy doesn't regret the decision. He's now my Wife's boss. And he is the most solid excuse I have for playing the whole card for the last three handicaps!!! All I have to do when she raises an eyebrow at the cashier line (after she sees the total bill) is remind her about her boss!!!
     
  16. Bisi

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    I have never played the options on singles, or doubles at the Grand, but the handicap is a different story. I'm afraid the first time I don't play em, will be the day I break a 100 in the GAH.

    So far it hasn't worked out too good for me. My best score in the GAH has been a 95 and I've did that 3 times. I think I about broke even with those scores. Of course I broke those scores the hard way, 24,23,24,24.or a similar version of those scores. The right way to break a 95 is 25,25,25,20.

    What ever you do have fun. For me the 25 option keeps my head in the game. If you drop 2 or more birds on the first trap you are out of the running in winning the GAH. The 25 option still gives you something to shoot for on the next 3 traps.
     
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