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What liberals fear more than Obama losing....

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, Aug 30, 2011.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2011/08/what_liberals_fear_more_than_obama_losing.html

    What Liberals Fear More Than Obama Losing

    by Geoffrey P. Hunt

    August 30, 2011

    The left are now wringing their hands fearing their agenda is overripe, blaming everyone else for their own spoiled pickling. While Obama's sinking prospects for re-election are disquieting, the real source of liberals' despair is their sudden, unexpected realization that the progressive agenda is dead in its tracks and will likely be in full retreat after 2012.

    Obama is finished, but the demise of their identity politician is neither the main event nor surprising. He was a lame duck after he returned from Copenhagen empty handed in September 2009, expecting the mere presence of his electro-magnetic glow would secure the 2016 summer Olympics for Chicago.

    He cannot claim a single success. His resume is a bibliography of failure. His signature achievement, the dubious namesake ObamaCare, was designed by someone else. Its central feature, the individual insurance mandate, is destined to be overturned by the Supreme Court.

    We will have our fill of post mortems, ad nauseam, about how The One broke their hearts; his considerable skills, now considered overrated, were just no match for the enormity of the clean- up needed after Bush's mess; a victim of his opponents' entrenched racism.

    Obama was only a convenient vessel, a mere tool. But enough about Obama; even the Congressional Black Caucus is ready to Move On.

    The end of the Progressive Era, eclipsing Obama, has come from two places -- one fiscal and pragmatic, the other ideological and visceral. First, the debt crisis and persistent economic woes have made it clear that the progressive agenda is unaffordable and unsustainable. The money pumps in the forms of more borrowing and taxes cannot possibly keep up with the tons of green water spending coming aboard.

    Second, beyond the limited government ideology now gaining real traction, Americans without an ideology are finding that central planning madness from Washington is making their lives worse, not better.

    The tipping point provoking the libs' worst nightmare was contained in Rick Perry's speech announcing his candidacy to be the Republican nominee for president. Perry proclaimed his mission was not to make government more accountable, effective, or efficient -- that's standard issue bromide from populist reformers.

    No, Perry was bold enough, and as his critics will assert reckless, to suggest government should be irrelevant -- his words "as inconsequential to your lives as possible." This may be the most radical anti-government posture since Calvin Coolidge, leaning on the likes of Lord Acton:

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    "There are many things the government can't do, many good purposes it must renounce. It must leave them to the enterprise of others. It cannot feed the people. It cannot enrich the people. It cannot teach the people."

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    The liberal press are frightened out of their wits. Whether Perry is an authentic purebred limited government advocate may be debatable. No matter, he's close enough.

    Perry's credibility as a governor, his disdain for Washington, his unapologetic and outspoken defense of conservative principles, his jobs and business climate record, all despite occasional lapses and rhetorical excesses -- in short his popularity and substance overcoming his defects -- make him the candidate the Dems fear most. Perry, more ruthless, pragmatic, and plain spoken than any of his rivals is the most likely to lead the coming dismantling of the federal government monstrosity.
     
  2. GW22

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    "Whether Perry is an authentic purebred limited government advocate may be debatable." LOL, ya think?

    Have you looked at the budget deficit in Texas? Do you know he ran a campaign for Al Gore? Do you know his stance on the border fence? Do you realize that he's supposedly an "anti-government" guy who's practically spent his whole life working for the government? Do you really think Independents and free-thinkers like me are going to vote for a RINO lightweight, fake conservative career-politician @sshole like Rick Perry?

    Yeah, I just might.

    -Gary
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Regardless of what anyone thinks of Perry, the main point is this:

    <i>"The end of the Progressive Era, eclipsing Obama, has come from two places -- one fiscal and pragmatic, the other ideological and visceral. First, the debt crisis and persistent economic woes have made it clear that the progressive agenda is unaffordable and unsustainable. The money pumps in the forms of more borrowing and taxes cannot possibly keep up with the tons of green water spending coming aboard.

    Second, beyond the limited government ideology now gaining real traction, Americans without an ideology are finding that central planning madness from Washington is making their lives worse, not better."</i>

    Those who are working hard but are being taxed to pay for those who don't work (wealth redistribution) and who are losing their jobs because of excessive taxes and over regulation, are fed up with socialism and liberalism.
     
  4. GW22

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    Brian:

    Taxes are the result of government expansion, waste, and corruption. And the Republicans have been growing government like a cancer and stealing our tax money right along with the Democrats for decades.

    So go ahead and vote for another @sshole RINO career politician like Perry. I probably will too, when faced with the alternative. But don't get it into your mind that Perry represents anything but more of the same of what got us into this mess. Do some of your OWN research and you will discover that he clearly is not.

    Respectfully,
    Gary
     
  5. Catpower

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    Gary why the hell don't YOU run for president you would find fault if God ran for president, you live in lala land there is no perfect person in this world, except for you

    Yeah Perry has been in politics for a long time, but he's also involved in the family farm, but the job of running Texas takes quite a bit of time, and we've done better than most states since all this shit hit the fan

    So Gary it's up to you, quit running your trap that nobody is good enough and start running your campaign
     
  6. timberfaller

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    Glen Beck, Tea Party, The Truth, A Free People....

    Should I go on???????????
     
  7. code5coupe

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    Catpower;
    I don't think your read Gary's posts in their entirety.

    What he said was Perry isn't perfect (and who is?), but he's far better than what we have now in the Oval Office...and may be the best the GOP has to offer this time.

    I agree.
     
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    I would just like to be able to believe in the the first permise of the article - 'Obama is finished'.
     
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    Code5, I read it, he isn't happy with anybody, that's his decision, but we need to get the best person that WILL run, and right now I think Perry is the best for the job

    He's tough and doesn't back down and this country needs somebody like that

    And as far as him being a former Dem, so was Reagan, and he was good, the Dem party used to have a few decent people, now they are all so damn liberal with other people's money it's pathetic
     
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    The USA has more taxes than 17th century Russia under "Peter The Great". They had taxes on water, beards, leather boots, horse saddles, food etc. But the one that really hurt the people was the tax on salt and the Gov. setting it's price at 2X the Gov's cost. I have already lost everything, wife included, so I don't care who gets in except for educating my 3 kids. I believe Obama gets re-elected though, too many depend on Gov and State jobs, wefare and the whole 9 yards.

    Harry Lyga
     
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    Damn shame, Harry, that the government even stole your wife.
     
  12. GW22

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    Catpower, I'm not sure what your problem is but I've been around the politics block a few times and I'm done mindlessly falling in line with whatever fool the Republicans nominate. Do you not comprehend the difference between a dime store Republican like Perry and a True Conservative like Ronald Reagan or Michele Bachmann?

    I'm getting old and I have three kids whose futures are being pissed away by corrupt and incompetent Democrats AND REPUBLICANS. I'm tired of being forced to choose between Socialistic America-Haters like Obama and bumbling old morons like John McCain who finished in the bottom 1% of their college class (literally). The serious problems our country is facing were created over decades and Republican played a huge role in that. If Liberal Democrats are a cancer on the Body America (which they certainly are), then Republicans like McCain, Bush and Perry are at least an advanced case of heart disease.

    Aren't you angry about this? Don't you have any children or grandkids you are concerned about? Are you really naive and simple-minded enough to think that the Republicans weren't part of the problem that got us here?

    If Perry gets nominated I, like you, will probably vote for him once I get into the voting booth. But unlike you, I have enough experience, free-thinking sense, and love for my children to know that I'll need to vomit on the way out.

    -Gary
     
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    So Gary,,,,just who in your opinion should the Repubs run as their candidate in 2012????
     
  14. GW22

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    Well BigDogTX, let me answer...

    Bachmann is a True Conservative with both governmental and private business experience who holds degrees from three universities. But unfortunately she has a vagina and she's attractive and, as I've explained ad nauseum, American women absoulutely will not stand for that combination. So I can't pick her.

    Mike Huckabee is a conservative, and an actual responsible adult, but he's too sickened by the process to run. So I can't pick him.

    Mitt Romney is another RINO like Perry, he basically invented ObamaCare, and his stances on most things come only after sticking his wet finger in the wind. So I can't pick him.

    Ron Paul is a brilliant man and a Libertarian at heart, God love him. But he's also older than God, so I can't pick him.

    That leaves me with RICK SANTORUM. That's who I would nominate. He's certainly not perfect, but he's a whole lot better than anyone else in this field. He's also a True Conservative and good Christian. But his hard-line stance on abortion will, once again, draw the ire of American women. He needs to back down on that. If my daughter gets pregnant from being raped, I don't want any politician dictating whether she can get an abortion. If he refuses to adjust his public religious persona, the Democrats will use their anti-religion scare tactics to frighten the dumbed-down voters into re-electing Obama. RICK SANTORUM, with some polish and experienced handlers is our best hope.

    -Gary
     
  15. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Gary, what makes you think I like RINOs? If this is what you believe, then you must not be paying attention around here.

    In fact, I am what's called a "South Park Republican". Our motto is "We hate the Republicans, but we REALLY friggin' hate the Democrats".

    I'd join the Libertarian Party if they could manage to get elected. Cripes, they can't even get elected dogcatcher.

    Also, my primary litmus test for candidates is the Second Amendment. Almost no liberals and very, very few RINOs qualify.
     
  16. GW22

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    Brian:

    After that post, I consider you my Blood-Brother.

    Please accept my heartfelt apology for anything I've ever said to offend you.

    Sincerely,

    Gary
    (Fellow South Park Republican)
     
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