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What is this wad please?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Bruce Em, Sep 24, 2011.

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  1. Bruce Em

    Bruce Em Member

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    I thought I knew but I didn't

    They are 12 ga heavy plastic with only 2 slits in the cup (split in half)

    lets see if I did the pic right

    thanks
     
  2. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    I'm thinking Herters!!
     
  3. Harold T. Pack

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    Back in my duck hunting days, I use to load a wad that looked like this one. It was a 1 3/8 oz. Alcan 2 or maybe an Alcan 4. The wad was pushed by 32 1/2 grains of Herco with 100 lbs. of wad pressure in a AA haul. It would really reach out an touch a duck through my model 10 Remington.

    Keep Your Head Down and Follow Through. Harold T. Pack
     
  4. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Banned User Banned TS Supporters

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    I can only recall the Alcan Air Wedge over powder wads. Harold may be on it!!
     
  5. pfofml

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    That wad is indeed an old Herters wad. Used them for 1 1/4 hunting loads in the late 1960's. Very hard, inflexable piece of plastic. I am greatful for the improvments in wads we have witnessed since then.

    Peter Falk
     
  6. Bruce Em

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    My experience with old wads was they crumbled. It didnt look like they were that old but maybe.


    regards
     
  7. grntitan

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    I have the Vintage Alcan Primers and Hulls to go with your wads.
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  8. 2shot

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    Mr. Pack is correct. They are Herters wads. There were 2 one 11/8 &ataller one for 11/4 or more.Back in the glory days I used AL5 & 1/3/8 of copper #4's.Ducks were not safe at 80 yds. I still have plenty left & use them for buddy shoots in the parking lot. 29grs. 7625 1oz. #4's good out to 100 yds. Reguards Mike Roese
     
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    Nope! the 'dawg nailed this one!!
     
  10. Donm

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    Grntitan. What was the dark colored looking shell with the other shell? I can only remember the red ones from days gone by. But then my mind kind of forgets some of the days.
     
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    Donm--Its a factory loaded paper 16ga. Remington Shurshot. It just happened to be in this pic of Alcan Primers that i took for something else.
     
  12. pyrdek

    pyrdek Well-Known Member

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    The wad shown is NOT any of the Alcan # wads. Those wads were one size of shot cup with different height fiber wads inside the shotcup to fill the space left needed. The unfilled wad was called the Alcan Flite-Max E with the "E" signifying an empty (no fiber wad(s) shotcup. The others were Alcan Flite-Max 1 to 6 (? 5) depending of the height of the fiber wad fillers.

    Give me a few days and I will try to post a picture of a Flite-Max wad.
     
  13. RunGunIPSC

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    Oh My God. Lookie at the Alcan stuff. I used to load these hulls 50 years. With the Lee loader that came in the red & black box. With the powder & shot dippers. And a hammer to pound the primers out & back in. And now I sit back in my chair & tap my foot on the peddle. Ka-ching,Ka-ching out come the shells
     
  14. Bruce Em

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    So is it safe to assume they are for straight wall hulls like Federal using 12S3 /S4 loading data?

    Used to read Herters catalogs as a kid in the 60's

    Always wondered how everything HE had was "perfect" "best" or the like !

    I am sure Barnum was proud

    thanks !
     
  15. Neil Winston

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    Bruce, it appears that you lucked into Vandalee miracle-shotcup with shaped-charge technology, not to be rediscovered until Federal's Black Cloud ammo appears nearly 50 years in the future.

    Herters-shotshell-wads-1966-copy-web.jpg

    It just shows how precient it was for the ATA to require factory shells in handicap at the Grand and the Martin's $100,000 shoot-off. If you have 25 of them, you could have just walked into Sparta and made off with the whole purse and no one else would have had a chance!

    Neil
     
  16. Donm

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    WOW look at those prices. Thanks Neil. Neat book.
     
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