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What is the definition of Gun part.

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Brayburn, Feb 26, 2013.

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  1. Brayburn

    Brayburn TS Member

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    Would anyone know the exact legal definition of the term "Gun parts" of a shotgun under the various US laws ? The five questions that i would like to find a exact answer to are. (a) Is a choke tube for a shotgun a "Gun part". (b) Is a stock/forend for a shotgun a "Gun part". (c) As far as ebay.com gunbroker.com or gunsamerica.com are concerned are there any issues or problems in shipping a used wooden/plastic stock/forend or a choke tube for a shotgun from the US to the United Kingdom. (d) Which of the main shipping couriers like FEDEX, USPS, UPS etc. would be the better choise of courier to deliver something like a choke tube or a forend from the US to the UK. (e) What issues or problems might arise in shipping a stock or choke tube from the US to the UK can be pointed out by anyone. Over here the UK Home Office has issued guidance that "magazines, sights and furniture are not considered component parts" where would someone find the written definition of the term "Gun parts" in US Law. Thank you all. Philip.
     
  2. acss

    acss Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    i shipped to the UK a stock & forearm and put on shipping papers "manufactured parts wood and steel-samples" and also stated that on invoice-- it was a lil difficult finding and printing papers to fill out and then went to post office to get clear faced envelope to put it all in---fedex was the cheapest by 1/2 vs usps
     
  3. postmastertim

    postmastertim Wheels are falling off.... TS Supporters

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    The ATF would be the only reliable source for the information you requested.

    We had a local guy go to jail for shipping body armor, playing games on a customs form has consequences.

    Tim




    A Hampton man has been ordered to serve 46 months in prison for attempting to ship body armor to Bogota, Colombia.

    Jerome Stuart Pendzich, 34, of Hampton, was sentenced in U.S. District Court in Knoxville on Thursday. Pendzich was charged and convicted with exporting defense articles without a license.

    According to the plea agreement, in January of 2009, Pendzich was operating two Internet businesses from his residence at 209 Reece Hill Road in Hampton. He was also selling on eBay, an Internet auction site, with the username “BULLETPROOFVEST.”

    Special agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement uncovered Pendzich’s operation while conducting a query of individuals and companies who were soliciting items listed and controlled under the United States Munitions List, and who were selling to worldwide destinations.

    A plea agreement states that Pendzich advertised bulletproof vests and body armor. Undercover agents made arrangements with Pendzich for him to send small arms protective inserts (SAPI plates) to Bogota, Colombia.

    “These items constitute defense articles under the Arms Export Control Act and the International Traffic In Arms Regulations which prohibit their export,” according to a press release from the Department of Justice.

    In May of 2009, agents learned that Pendzich was going to mail a package from the Hampton Post Office to a location in Colombia. The agents then received two plates. In June, the agents learned the man would send two additional packages from the Hampton Post Office. Once again, the agents received the packages.

    On Sept. 16, 2009, the agents executed a search warrant at the defendant’s Hampton residence. They allegedly found three computers which contained records of the defendant’s business, including the two mentioned transactions.

    The ICE agents said Pendzich falsely described the contents of the packages as “ceramic plates” and “gifts” on customs declarations.

    The agents also said Pendzich had previously been told by his supplier, Armor Express, that an export license was needed from the Department of State before he could export the plates.

    The plea agreement states, “The defendant’s specific conduct in this case did not compromise the national security of the United States.”

    Pendzich was charged with the federal crime because he was operating his business without a legal license.
     
  4. Setterman

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    My son found out the hard way that airport security considers a choke tube a "gun part"!
     
  5. Jim R

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    Philip

    It is not worth it. For what ever profit you may gain if you get caught or even come under question by the ATF you will be forever on their Radar.


    Jim R
     
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    Choke tubes are "gun parts",according to airlines, cannot be carried aboard airplanes. Personal experience in MX and UK. No problem in checked baggage.
    In the US, only the serial numbered receiver is considered a "gun"
     
  7. skeet_man

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    Pretty much any part that can be used in a firearm is considered a "gun part" by customs. Chokes, stocks, forends, barrels, triggers, magazines, ect. The only thing they MAY not consider a gun part would be hardware store type stuff like springs, screws, pins, ect.

    If it is part of a gun, then it is a gun part.

    A. Yes

    B. Yes

    C. Yes, ebay does not allow any firearms parts sold through its site to be exported PERIOD. If they find out you are, they'll cancel your account.

    D. None of them if you don't comply with the laws of the exporting and importing countries.

    E. Huge fines or jail time if you run afoul of the law. Customs doesn't play around, if you violate the law, they'll nail you to the wall.
     
  8. Shooting Sailor

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    Skeet Man - Unfortunately, the State Department has decreed that (some) springs ARE "gun parts". I tried to order springs for a shotgun from an American supplier, and was told they couldn't ship to Canada, due to State Department export regulations. The fellow I talked to didn't understand the reasoning behind the edict, because they could ship other shotgun parts, and almost all their stock of rifle parts, including springs, but there were a few things in their inventory declared to be taboo to ship to Canada.

    It would behoove anyone interested in shipping internationally to have the item cleared in writing by the State Department before trying to ship. The penalties for inadvertent legal transgressions are just too severe to take a chance these days.
     
  9. Brayburn

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    Thank you all for your answers and imput. I have sent 2 emails to ATF offices and also 1 email to a state firearms police department asking for details about the legalities of shipping a choke tube and stock/forend from the US to the UK. The set-backs that UK shooters who own American produced shotguns or other US items come across over here are issues like not having the selection or choise of either original or aftermarket spares or items for things like Remington 1100's 1187's, Winchester 23's, etc. The type of issue that we come up against are things like, I made a telephone call last week to ask the one and only Briley agent over here for a price for one Imp. Mod. Choke tube for a older Perazzi with type 2 choke tubes, their reply £60.00 of our GBP plus postage on top which is more than $95.00 of your $ plus the P+P . Another example is that I would like to buy a repair kit for a 20 gauge Winchester 23 from Mid West Gunworks my enquiries in to that idea produced a barrel of laughs that would take two whole days to explain before i even get round to explaining about trying to buy a repacement remote for a FoxPro. I fail to understand how is everything to do with buying a fairly simple and straight forward spare part out of the US so complicated and full of obstacles at every step. A'r well take care and kind regards to you all. Thanks Philip.
     
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