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What is a goog 12ga.reloader (not progressive)

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by 2barrelpa, Jan 5, 2010.

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  1. 2barrelpa

    2barrelpa TS Member

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    I was going to start with a Grabber or sizemaster but I think I want to go the inexpensive way & start with non progressive press.
    Anything other then MEC I should look at?
    I am leaning towards resizing & taper crimp...

    I'm just starting to shoot & cannot see shooting more then 500/month.
    Is this being realistic?

    I figure I can resize, deprime & prime all the hulls at one sitting.
    Then go back & load them later.
    Does anyone do this?

    Does anyone have an opinion (LOL) ??
     
  2. grunt

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    One of the cheaper Mecs.
     
  3. KEYBEAR

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    Mec or if you like a little better PW-375 .
     
  4. short shucker

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    I've got a couple of Pacific 266's that I dearly love to use. They can be a little tuff to find as they haven't been made in quite some time.

    ss
     
  5. Auctioneer

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    Mec 650 is a loader that I learned off of. It is a good loader and cheaper then a 9000G.
     
  6. spitter

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    Don't be penny-wise and pound foolish. To buy two loaders (single-stage and ultimately a progressive) is a waste of money and more importantly your time.

    I started with a single stage (Lee Load All II), machine costs nexts to nothing has everything and it makes a decent shell. But to load a few boxes an hour, you're talking 5+ hours a month/500 shells. You will get tired of that (both physically and mentally) relative quick.

    Buy a clean used progressive machine that can index, even if you use it initially as a single stage to acquaint yourself... make a wise investment of dollars and maximize your effectiveness in using the time you will have to load as many shells as quickly as you can... you'll never get those minutes back!

    regards all,

    Jay
     
  7. shrek

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    for single stage reloaders I really like sizemasters
     
  8. OldRemFan

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    I'm with short shucker on this one. I also have two Pacific 266 loaders. They are great quality. I bought my first one in 1968, and it still works great. They do turn up on eBay once in a while. I bought my last one from rollie on this site. Be aware that some parts are no longer available if you find an incomplete used one. Check with Hornady when in doubt. They still use the current Hornady powder and shot bushings.
     
  9. OldGoat

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    MEC Sizemaster or Grabber...really seriously consider a Grabber...will last for years and less complicated than a 9000. Best Regards, Ed
     
  10. xringjim

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    My single stage Pacific 250 is all I need. It makes GREAT reloads and the hand coordination to load is very user friendly. I inherited mine from my dad who bought it in the 60's. Single stage loading allows me to feel the primer going in. Also, I've found bad shells before they get into my barrel from the handling vs a progressive. With that said if I was buying today I'd spring for a nice progressive. Most people are in a hurry which a progressive serves better. And if the day comes you want to leave the sport resale will be better. Jim
     
  11. PerazziBigBore

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    The 266 is great.. but don't leave out the 155.. Does a fine job too.. and usually for sale without the auto primer feed for $50.00 or less.. Hornady still makes all parts that can break.. and are in stock
     
  12. Pull & Mark

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    I too say if you want a single stage machine, go with the Mec sizemaster. You will not make a better shell with any other reloader. I may be abit slower than the progressive's but very simple to use. If you buy one used you can't go wrong. Good Luck and Break-em all. Jeff
     
  13. showdawg

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    my ole sizemaster still makes the the prettiest shells.

    Showdawg
     
  14. short shucker

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    My 266's aren't my only loaders, as I have a couple of Hornady 366's for bulk production. I still enjoy loading on my 266's more.

    ss
     
  15. W.R.Buchanan

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    Ross you're shitting me, I got into this sport specifically because they said they would refund my money for the ones that didn't break and now you're telling me they WON"T! What's up with THAT?

    oh well,,,Back to pistol shooting, cuz they do!

    Randy
     
  16. OldRemFan

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    Ross:

    I am not claiming to be an expert on the 266 loader, however, I believe they were all set up for the auto primer feed. The original Pacific reloading tools book I have from 1968 shows them with automatic primer feed that was included at that time. The primer tube on my Hornady 366 will also fit the 266.
     
  17. TALLEND

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    The question was---NON progressive??????----

    How much loading do you plan on doing?

    I started loading for "one",ended up loading for"three"wife,daughter,and myself--at that point I went to a progressive(now have a 9000H)

    The Mec 600jr is a great "Single Stage" press---at the local(Indiana)gun shows,they are 50-75 dollars- used ---parts,and guage changes are readily available for this press.........

    Tom
     
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    Get a size master, when you decide to go to a progressive loader--the sizemaster becomes a resizing & depriming tool. Saves wear & tear, & reduces maintenance on a 9000 or a grabber. I use a sizemaster & a 650. If I decide to start loading again.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  19. PerazziBigBore

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    Every reloader can use a single stage press.. sooner or later.. If you wanted to try a new load.. or a new wad.. It makes things very easy.. The sizing ring on a 155/266/366 is the same part..same part number.. So.. they all resize the same.. If you have problems with a steel headed case.. polish the sizing ring.. or get a friend with a lathe to open it up a weeee bit and polish.. The sizing ring COMPLETELY resizes the case back to factory specs.. I find them to be the best in the industry for a total resize of ANY hull..

    Now.. any trapshooter will need a progressive reloading press.. But.. the usefullness of a single stage will never be lacking.. and for a new reloader..he'll learn much more than with a progressive because he's handling the case more.. He can feel more.. and especially when something is wrong..
     
  20. Recoil Sissy

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    2barrelpa:

    You asked for advice and have received good but sometimes conflicting opinions. Which opinions are 'correct' depends on how you actually load. Here's my take on the subject.

    I started with Mec 600 JR. roughly 25 years ago. It didn't take long to reach a loading volume where progressives (now four of them) became necessary. However, I still have the old 600 Jr and I still use it to correct occasional screw ups. The hardened steel ring resizer on the 600 Jr. is also unarguably superior to collet resizers. This is particularly true if you intend to load any of the steel headed hulls.

    There's nothing wrong about starting with a single stage. Buy a decent one used and if/when you move up to a progressive loader, you can always sell the single stage... or keep it like I did.

    sissy
     
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