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What, exactly, does "trapping the target" mean

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by laura!, Jun 11, 2010.

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  1. laura!

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  2. scott calhoun

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    What, exactly, does

    Laura -

    To me it means shooting the target by putting your gun in front/above the target and shooting it as it gets to your barrel, rather than the other way around of "chasing" the target after it gets past your barrel.

    I always think of trapping a target when I think of the first shot of doubles.

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  3. BDodd

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    It's usually spoken of in Trap doubles. You should know exactly where the first bird in doubles will appear and track so holding the gun on that track and "trapping" it requires some skill at timing and an accurate hold with a minimum of movement.......Breakemall.....Bob Dodd
     
  4. chipking

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    When a shooter "traps" a bird They are shooting at a point in the sky and expecting the bird to be there. When the timing and bird position are perfect it is a thing of beauty when timing is off (less a problem with voice releases) or the wind or trap causes the bird to be somewhere else it is a train wreck. I have seen shooters with very high doubles averages shoot in the 80s with most losses first birds because they tried to trap the first bird on a field with a machine that shifted slightly or had bad brushes.

    Our GMV Superstar would occasionally throw a single straightaway during doubles. There was always someone who shot where the real first bird SHOULD have been because they were "trapping". LOST bird.


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  5. hunter44

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    The only time that you could possible "trap" a target is the first shot of doubles.

    Confusion began on the thread "do you hold a high gun" when one poster equated a high gun hold with trapping the target & others jumped in to agree with that nonsense. If there is gun movement then that is not "trapping the target".
     
  6. chipking

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    3. When an illegal target, a freak target, or a target of a markedly
    different color is fired at and missed. A contestant may refuse illegal,
    freak or off-colored targets, but if he/she fires at the target the result
    must be scored;

    If you shoot it is a lost bird. Page 30

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  7. Hap MecTweaks

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    One target thrown during a doubles event is the same as a no target,fired at or not.

    Trapping the first target in doubles works some times, Mother Nature can make trappers look bad during hard changing winds. I feel it better to shoot the target for what it's doing, rather than where it's supposed to be.

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  8. hmb

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    Here is the definition of trapping the target:

    A shooter traps the target when he fires the gun while the target is below the line of sight of the gun.

    A common sequence of events is as follows, Hold the mounted gun parallel to the ground, have the gun aimed to intersect the targets line of flight, see the bird leave the trap house, as the target approaches the gun the shooter fires the gun.

    This method is used in the doubles game for the first shot. HMB
     
  9. Mike Michalski

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    I think it's the same technique skeet shooters use on high one. They call it a dead gun. No gun movement at all (at least in theory).
     
  10. highflyer

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    Sounds a lot like the intercept method used in sporting clays. Very effective on sharp angle targets. Unlike in regular trap where you don't know the exact line of the target in sporting clays, like the first shot of doubles trap, you do. When a target requires a small lead it works and is easy to replicate. Minimum gun movement, less chance for error. As the angle grows and the lead grows not very effective because the timing becomes more difficult. The same way I shoot high house no. 1 in skeet.
     
  11. old tex

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    A very fine TX handicap shooter used to teach holding his gun at the ht that let him shoot with almost no vertical movement works for him.


    His almost .94 avg. on 200,000 hdcp birds is a hell of an argument for his technique.

    In some cases where the target comes out directly to his hold point it could be called trapping because there is very little observable gun movement.
     
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    Trapping targets takes an exceptional level of acute timing. There is no room for error. If you think you are good at trapping the first target in doubles, try pulling the trigger before the target actually is seen while holding a low gun on the path. Trapping = timing.
     
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    Is spot shooting the same as trapping the target?
     
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    1oldtimer, close but not quite. A spot shooter looks ahead of a target to a spot he wants to hit, trapping the first bird in doubles, the gun is held still at the predetermined spot.

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  15. code5coupe

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    If you are pulling the trigger on a stationary gun that is pointing to the spot you expect the bird to be when the payload arrives there, that is called spot shooting. Sounds like it is also called "trapping" the bird.
     
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    My understanding is that trapping the bird and spot shooting are different animals.


    Trapping the bird to some means shooting the target just as close to the trap as possible. Ya gotta be quick!


    Spot shooting on the other hand is fixing the gun at a point in space and pulling the trigger in a timed fashion without a swing. One can spot shoot close, or farther away from the trap.


    If you use the spot shooting technique, and shoot the bird very close to the trap, you are employing both techniques.


    A fine line of distinction--many use the terms interchangeably.


    Does that make any sense?




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    You definition of spot shooting is what you do when you trap the bird. You can trap the bird at varying distances from the house depending on the conditions that day. HMB
     
  18. Hap MecTweaks

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    Spot shooting is taking the eyes/eye away from the target and measuring the distance between the target and gun shooting in front at a "spot". You see the target in your peripheral vision. Completely the opposite of keeping the eyes glued to the leading edge of the target and seeing the bead/barrel move past the clay with your peripheral vision.

    One can "spot" shoot a target while moving the gun, trapping the first target in doubles requires a stationary hold and shot. Like a lot of shotgunning terms, some are as clear as mud to a lot of shooters!

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    No, that is not trapping the target. Trapping the target would be shooting the target while it was still under the gun. HMB
     
  20. gdbabin

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    My understanding is that trapping the bird and spot shooting are different animals.


    Trapping the bird to some means shooting the target just as close to the trap as possible. Ya gotta be quick!


    Spot shooting on the other hand is fixing the gun at a point in space and pulling the trigger in a timed fashion without a swing. One can spot shoot close, or farther away from the trap.


    If you use the spot shooting technique, and shoot the bird very close to the trap, you are employing both techniques.


    A fine line of distinction--many use the terms interchangeably.


    Does that make any sense?




    Guy Babin
     
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