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What does Pigeon Grade Mean?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Bruce Specht, Apr 15, 2010.

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  1. Bruce Specht

    Bruce Specht Well-Known Member

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    What does "Pigeon Grade" mean, I think it's a safe assumption that it dosen't mean Pigeon gun as in meant for pigeon shooting. I own one and I know of identical guns, that from all apperances that are not " Pigeon Grade" So whom or what determines a Pigeon Grade from a highly engraved and carved shotgun from a Pigeon?
     
  2. Jerseyshooter

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    In the Browning line, I believe this grade was between the Pointer grade and Midas grade....Midas being the highest grade available. They are usually very, very nice with great engraving and super wood.
     
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    Brownings were in 5 grades..Field-Pigeon-Pointer-Diana-Midas...KS-OKIE.
     
  4. bigbore613

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    Above midas are Presentation and Exhibition. Jeff
     
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    That it's for the birds?
     
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    My Browning BT99 Pigeon, Grade II; has the deep relief engraving, but Browning's later version had some gold filigree (sic?). Other companies embellished guns, might have included some jeweling (engine turning) on bolts, lugs, better/more elaborate checkering, enhanced metal engravings and better figured wood...

    I think its one of those terms which has been abused and lost its cache...

    Jay
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  7. bigbore613

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    Pigeon Grade means different things in different makers. Usually special or upgraded. Jeff
     
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    I have a Browning BPS in Pigeon, little upgrade in the wood and a Gold border on the plain receiver, no engraving.
     
  9. Barry C. Roach

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    Similar to the use of DeLuxe or Limited or Special Edition in the car business. The definitions vary from cheaper to high end. Mostly marketing.
     
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    Winchester has several model Pigeon grade guns and they are very collectable the Model 12 and SX1 guns come to mind and they are very collectable and pricy today.
     
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    It means the pigeon pays more for the gun! :-0

    Just kidding.

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    Browning used to have a Grade IV, between Pointer and Diana.
     
  13. JH

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    In the Brownings, the older Pigeon grade guns had much larger engraved pigeons than the newer ones....pigeon grade usually means higher grade wood, engraved pigeons in the receiver and higher prices!
     
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    Nice BT-99 pigeon!
    Those older first silver pigeon's were the best BT's ever made. IMO
     
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    I believe that "Pigeon Grade" guns were originally meant for pigeon shooting which was - and is - the province of the wealthy. So, they were top-of-the-line guns with embellishments such as fancy engraving. -John
     
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    Thanks!

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    "I believe that "Pigeon Grade" guns were originally meant for pigeon shooting which was - and is - the province of the wealthy."

    If this is the case what were Pointer-Diana-Midas-Presentation and Exhibition Grades originally meant for?????? I certainly hope that Pointer Grade gun weren't used for shooting "Pointers"....LOL

    Bob Lawless
     
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    What was Diana named after?? Some executives daughter?
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    The Diana grade was named for Diana- Roman goddess of the hunt- it has hunting scenes on both sides and the bottom.
    The Pigeon grade has pigeons on both sides
    The Pointer grade has a pointer on the rh side
    The Midas grade has gold inlays. King Midas/gold get it?

    Steve
     
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