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What About a Regional Gun Club Pass?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by smoking357, Jul 27, 2010.

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  1. smoking357

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    In many cities, there are several Trap clubs in the area. Since the clubs benefit from people shooting, all clubs would benefit from a shooter being a member, somewhere.

    To this end, I propose that all clubs in a metro area give reciprocal membership status to any shooter from another club in the metro area. If a shooter from any club in the area flashes his membership card, the foreign club treats him as if he is a member and is entitled to member fees. I don't even want to see reciprocal status being dependent on the behavior of the shooter's home club. I think it makes economic sense and builds community for all clubs to respect the membership status of another club's members. Given the process of random assignment, the regular travels of shooters in the area evens everything out, in the long run, and new shooters are welcomed to clubs they may not have visited.

    Alternatively, why not create a metro gun club pass, where all participating clubs get a piece of the fee?
     
  2. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    Something like in your home club you would have voting rights for officers etc. but if you were visiting another club you would be considered a social (non-voting member). Sounds like a good idea. Bulge.
     
  3. Ljutic111

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    I think not !!! You join a specific club , pay their dues and come to our club and shoot to get our benefits ?? NO . Pay our non-member rates or join the club !!!
     
  4. smoking357

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    "You join a specific club , pay their dues and come to our club and shoot to get our benefits?"

    Absolutely. The "benefits" really amount to being able to shoot at member rates.

    And, if this is properly working, you can shoot at their club for their rates.

    Insularity and provincialism isn't helpful. Be more "big tent," more forward thinking.
     
  5. Ljutic111

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    Still no thanks . Maybe it might work for you but I would take an option like that .
     
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    North Hollywood Sportsman's Club in Santa Clarita, CA. unilaterally recognizes members of other clubs and charges them club member rates. We do not lose money as we have another shooter and it builds good will. It is difficult to do this with a public range with their own club as the "public" range charges substantially more than NHSC and the "public" club can not reciprocate. Fred
     
  7. goatskin

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    I think it is a good idea, and would work reasonably well, anyhow. Choice & exposure rocks.

    Bob
     
  8. smoking357

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    Ajax, let's say the dues are not the same. Does it matter?

    Think along these lines:

    http://www.smartdestinations.com/chicago-attractions-and-tours/_d_Chi-p1.html?pass=Chi_Prod_Go

    All attractions don't have the same admission price, but everyone gets a piece of the pie.

    This could even got nationwide. If you hold a membership card with the Cincinnati Trap Consortium on it, there's no reason why the St. Louis Trap Consortium wouldn't want to offer reciprocity to the Cincy folks.
     
  9. jim brown

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    There is a problem with not-for-profit clubs. They can only generate a small percentage of their profits from non-members or risk their tax status. Any non voting members are not considered as members by the IRS.

    jim brown
     
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    How much would it cost to have a CIA (Certified Internal Auditor) come in and do the books every month to make sure each club and the Treasury Department is getting their slice of the pie? Please...........Wayne
     
  11. smoking357

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    Jim, I don't really that would be an issue at anywhere near capacity traffic levels.
     
  12. smoking357

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    Ajax, based on the information provided, I don't know. I'd have to check them out. How much do they each charge for a round for members and non-members?
     
  13. smoking357

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    Ajax, Evergreen charges $4.00 for members and $4.50 for non-members, so they'd give up .50 cents a round to participate in a regional pass.

    Their members would get a break at the small club.

    Looks like it would work.
     
  14. Barry C. Roach

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    It would only work if each gun club agrees to participate in the program. Otherwise it's a slap in the face to members who may have paid much more to belong to their club.

    It's done, and successfully, at small rural golf clubs but there are always hard feelings for the reason above

    Being a member should have it's privileges and perks.
     
  15. phirel

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    smoking357- Might work. Why don't you contact two clubs and submit a clear written proposal. If you can convince two clubs, others might join.

    Pat Ireland
     
  16. smoking357

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    Ajax, you're running from a great big benefit to avoid little bitty harm.
     
  17. Bernie K

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    As presidet of a gun club this idea has been around for a long, long time. It's a great idea but one that will never fly as Alex has stated.

    Why would anyone pay $100.00 a year to join a club when he can join another at $25.00 and get the benefits of the $100.00 club? You would never get the larger more expencive club to go along with such a plan. There is nothing in it for them. Other members that pay the $100.00 a year would not like it if their fields were being tied up by non-members when they came to shoot. Great idea on paper but not in the real world. Bernie K
     
  18. smoking357

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    Bernie, nothing, except for more shooters.

    And why wouldn't anyone want to shoot at the $25 club?
     
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    This idea actually works quite well. One of the clubs that I belong to, is 45 minutes from my house. They are reciprocal to another club that is 35 minutes from my house. I get to shoot on Saturday at the closer club for the lower rate, and Sunday at the more distant club for the same rate. The closer club had a Spring league that we were allowed to shoot in, and that worked out well also. It is also a good way to meet some fine people who share my interest in trapshooting!
     
  20. wolfram

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    Our little small town club is very much like what you describe, non-members pay a slightly higher target price and of course they don't vote but other than that everything is wide open for them. Can't imagine that we will ever get so famous that we discourage shooters based on membership.

    Really what the membership in our club means is that you are expected to pitch in a do a little free work now and then.
     
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