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We the People are coming

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by halfmile, Aug 26, 2009.

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  1. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    From the Glenn Beck show, this letter says just about all that needs to be said. (This morning's email gem)


    GLENN BECK: I got a letter from a woman in Arizona . She writes an open letter to our nation's leadership:



    I am a home grown American citizen, 53, registered Democrat all my life. Before the last presidential election I registered as a Republican because I no longer felt the Democratic Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. Now I no longer feel the Republican Party represents my views or works to solve issues important to me. The fact is I no longer feel any political party or representative in Washington represents my views or works to solve the issues important to me.



    There must be someone. Please tell me who you are. Please stand up and tell me you are there and you are willing to fight for our Constitution as it was written. Please stand up now. You might ask what are my views and issues that I feel so horribly disenfranchised by both major political parties. Well, these briefly are my views and the issues for which I seek representation:



    One - Illegal Immigration. I want you to stop coddling illegal immigrants and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels. Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty. Never again. Been there, done that, no resolution. PS, I am not a racist. This isn't to be confused with legal immigration.



    Two - The TARP Bill. I want it repealed and I want no further funding supplied to it. We told you no, but you did it anyway. I want the remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal. TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program). The Wall Street handout bill, under President Bush, to address the subprime mortgage crisis, to purchase or insure up to $700 billion of "troubled" assets.



    Three - Czars. I want the circumvention of our checks and balances stopped immediately. Fire the 37 czars. No more czars. Government officials answer to the process, not to the president. Stop trampling on our Constitution and honor it.



    Four - Cap And Trade. The debate on global warming is not over. There is more to say.



    Five - Universal Health Care. I will not be rushed into another expensive decision. Don't you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night and go on break. Slow down.



    Six - Growing Government Control. I want States Rights and sovereignty fully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. Shrink it down. Mind your own business. You have enough to take care of with your real obligations. Start there.


    Seven - ACORN. I do not want ACORN and its affiliates in charge of our 2010 census. I also want them investigated. I also do not want mandatory escrow fees contributed to them on every real estate deal that closes. Stop the funding to ACORN and its affiliates pending impartial audits and investigations. I do not trust them taking the census over with our taxpayer money. I want all our money to them stopped. Face up to the allegations against them and get them resolved before getting any more involved with them. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, hello. Stop protecting your political buddies. You work for us, the people. Investigate.



    Eight - Redistribution Of Wealth. No, no, no. I work for my money. It is mine. I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs. That is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support. I never got a job from a poor person. Why do you want me to hate my employers? Why? What do you have against shareholders making a profit?



    Nine - Charitable Contributions. Although I never got a job from a poor person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent and local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves.



    Ten - Corporate Bailouts. Knock it off. Sink or swim like the rest of us. If there are hard times ahead we'll be better off just getting into it and letting the strong survive. Quick and painful. Have you ever ripped off a BandAid? We will pull together. Great things happen in America under great hardship. Give us the chance to innovate. We cannot disappoint you more than you have disappointed us.



    Eleven - Transparency And Accountability. How about it? No, really, how about it? Let's have it. Let's say we give the buzzwords a rest and have some straight honest talk. Please try. Please stop manipulating and trying to appease me with clever wording. I am not the idiot you take me for. Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your friends. It will only be a prelude to criminal investigation of you. Stop hiding things from me.



    Twelve - Unprecedented Quick Spending. Stop it now. Take a breath. Listen to the people. Let's just slow down and get some input from some non politicians on the subject. Stop making everything an emergency. Stop speed reading our bills into law.



    I am not an activist. I am not a community organizer. Nor am I a terrorist, militant or violent person. I am a parent and grandparent. I work. I'm busy. I'm busy and I'm tired. I thought we elected competent people to take care of the business of government so we could work, raise our families, pay our bills, have recreation, complain about taxes, endure our hardships, pursue our goals, cut our lawn, wash our cars on weekends, be responsible contributing members of society and teach our children to be the same - all while living in the home of the free and land of the brave.



    I entrusted you with upholding the Constitution. I believed in the checks and balances to keep from getting far off course. What happened? You are very far off course.



    Do you really think I find humor in the hiring of a speed reader to unintelligently ramble through a bill you signed into law without knowing what it contained? I do not. It is a mockery of the responsibility I have entrusted to you. It is a slap in the face. I am not laughing at your arrogance.



    Why is it that I feel you would not trust me to make a single decision about my own life and how I would live it, but you expect I should trust you with the debt you have, without caring or conscience, laid on all of us and our children. We did not want the TARP bill. We said no. We would repeal it if we could. I am sure we still can. There is such urgency and recklessness in all of your recent spending.



    From my perspective, it seems all of you have gone insane. I also know I am far from alone in these feelings. Do you honestly feel your current pursuits have merit to patriotic Americans? We want it to stop. We want to put the brakes on everything that is being rushed passed us and forced upon us. We want our voice back. You have forced us to put our lives on hold to straighten out the mess you are making.



    We will have to give up our vacations, time spent with our children, any relaxation time we may have had and money we cannot afford - to spend on you - to bring our concerns to Washington. Our president knows all the buzzwords are unsustainable. No kidding. How many tens of thousands of dollars did the focus group cost to come up with those buzzwords? We don't want your overpriced words. Stop treating us like morons.



    We want all of you to stop focusing on your reelection and do the job we want done, not the job you want done or the job your party wants done. You work for us and at this rate I guarantee you not for long - because we are coming. We will be heard and we will be represented.



    You think we're so busy with our lives we will never come for you? We are the former silent majority, all who quietly work, pay taxes, obey the law, vote, save money, keep our noses to the grindstone - and we are now closely looking at you and the huge mess you created for all of us. You have awakened in us the patriotic spirit, so strong and so powerful that had been sleeping too long. You have pushed us too far. Our numbers are great. They will surprise you. For every one of us who come after you there will be hundreds more who could not come.



    Unlike you we have their trust. We will represent them honestly. Rest assured they will be at the polls on voting day to usher you out of office. We have cancelled vacations. We will use our last few dollars saved. We will find the representation among us and a grassroots campaign will flourish. We didn't ask for this fight. But the gloves are off. We are very angry.



    You will represent us or you will be replaced with someone who will. There are candidates among us who will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes you have made of our constitution.



    Democrat, Republican, Independent, Libertarian. Understand this. We don't care. Political parties are meaningless to us. Patriotic Americans are willing to do right by us and our Constitution and that is all that matters to us now.



    We are going to fire all of you who abuse power and seek more. It is not your power. It is ours and we want it back. We entrusted you with it and you abused it.



    You are dishonorable. You are dishonest. As Americans we are ashamed of you. You have brought shame to us in front of the whole world. If you are not representing the needs of your constituency loudly and consistently, in spite of the objections of your party, you will be fired. Did you hear that? We no longer care about your political parties. You need to be loyal to us, not to them. Because we will fire you and they cannot save you.



    If you do or can represent me, my issues, my views, please stand up. Make your identity known. You need to make some noise about it. Speak up. I need to know who you are. If you do not speak up, you will be herded out with the rest of the sheep and we will replace the whole damn congress if need be one by one. We are coming. Are we coming for you? Who do you represent? What do you represent? Listen. Because we are coming. We the people are coming.


    HM
     
  2. jimrich60

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    One of the most powerful statements yet from "the people." I hope this gets a wide, wide circulation, and that more and more sign on. Get the message to the politicians. I love that final words "we are coming for you"

    Jim R
     
  3. halfmile

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    jim, I'm sending it to all my elected officials. Including at the state level.

    One hell of a wake up call.

    HM
     
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    Halfmile:

    I have sent copies of this letter to my entire email address book. I am also sending copies to all my reps, etc. Thanks for posting this. It is truly a great letter and one that all concerned citizens need to read, and send on. Thank you


    Jim R
     
  5. bigdogtx

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    congress had better start to realize that WE THE PEOPLE are going to make changes,,,,they messed with our kids and grandkids and that WE will not stand for!!!!
     
  6. halfmile

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    They count on our distractions to make it possible for them to do their dirty work.

    As you can plainly see, only the Really Dumb Ones get caught. Like Cold Cash Jefferson, Charlie Wrangel, etc.

    If Nascar, NFL, and WWF were not there they would be trading a lot more lightly.

    If all who read this would show it to just one person (physicalyy, not email) there would be a lot more noise forthcoming.

    Do it.

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  7. Andy44

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    Awesome letter! Great message.......EXCEPT, the "People" can't come while the "Sheep" are being herded! Everyone needs to WAKE UP!

    AndyH ;-)
     
  8. Dahaub

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    I can remember when I was bitching about "We the People" when George and his crew of theives were taking our rights and running rampant thru our treasury and you guys said nothing. Dan
     
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    Bush might have had thieves BUT Obama has COMMIE's and tax dodgers in his ranks!

    What "rights" were lost under Bush, does anyone have a Bill number in which that happened?
     
  10. bigdogtx

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    timb,,,,he is talking about the muslim brothers he wants to protect....

    BTW, dahaub,,,,please compare the AMOUNTS that Bush approved compared to what hussein has/wants to do....
     
  11. Dahaub

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    Dog-- apples to apples and a dead broke busted bankrupt country to the same . That's what Obama was given and not he's trying to work it out. Clearly the economic policies of GW were bad. Not just bad they sucked the big one or our country wouldn't be dead broke and on the verge of bankruptsy. I don't believe any of you guys have a clue what kind of a mess we actually are in. The policies that are being enacted today are nothing more than steps to get our country out of this fincial mess. Thank you George W and the theives who took our rights to privacy when they enacted the HomeLand Security Bill. That's the rights the republicans stole in the middle of the night. Just maybe we can at one day have those rights back. Wouldn't that be nice? Timber always remember which tree you cut thru cause one of those will fall on your head when you least expect it. Dan
     
  12. halfmile

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    Someone doesn't know the difference between a President who wants to protect the country and one who wants to make it into something different.


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    Bush may have had his faults, but filling the white house with Communists and radicals, not to mention creating a bypass to Congress with all the czars appointed was not one of them.

    Dan, you're a Conehead. Go stick your head in a vise and see if you can get your brain to grow.

    Obviously you didn't bother to read the lady's letter before you slithered up on your soapbox.

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  13. jimrich60

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    Yes, under the Bush administration, the deficit grew to 487 billion (driven by a democrat congress by the way). So Obama's way to "fix" this is to grow the deficit to 9 TRILLION over the next ten years. Only an idiot lefty could possibley think the way to get out of debt is by spending 18 times as much. As for "freedom" there has never been a documented case of the Patriot Act ever used against an American citizen, or impinging on any citizens freedom. But under Obama, the government now claims the "right" to take over private computer systems (under the Cash for Clunkers program), asks citizens to "report" other citizens who criticise or disagree with administration programs like Obamacare, openly condones Black Panther thugs intimidating voters at the polls, gives billions to voter fraud organizers like Acorn, and wants a "healthcare" bill which puts the government in charge of your health, and lets beauracrats make life and death decisions for you. Now they have an Obama appointed communications czar , an openly self avowed communist, who has publicly stated that Chavez's take over of public news, tv, and radio in Venezuela was a "wonderful and admirable" revolution. So, tell us again, who is trying to destroy liberty?

    Jim R
     
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    Duhaub, I don't know if you are really Anti-American and hate America or if you are just so full of Cool aid that you can't comprehend what is happening.

    If it is the latter I suggest that you go to the above website and see the connection between the Liberals (like Obama and Hillery) and people like Saul Alinsky.

    http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

    shooterIII
     
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    This guy is either A: masochistic or B: dumber than a lobotomized amoeba.

    Or he's Trappy's daddy.

    HM
     
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    Take some time and learn what is happening in D.C.
    We have now by-passed socialism and went straight to communism,,,
    Look at the people this jerk has given Czar jobs to,,,,,,shocking,,,
     
  17. stokinpls

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    Go ahead, tell us about the election, komrade.

    "Take increased federal spending and the growing government absorption of GDP. Given the resiliency of the U.S. economy, it would have been easy to ride out the recession. In that case we would still have had to deal with a burgeoning and unsustainable annual federal deficit that would have approached $1 trillion.

    Instead, Obama may nearly double that amount of annual indebtedness with more federal stimuli and bailouts, newly envisioned cap-and-trade legislation, and a variety of fresh entitlements. Was that fiscally irresponsible? Yes, of course.

    But I think the key was not so much the spending excess or new entitlements. The point instead was the consequence of the resulting deficits, which will require radically new taxation for generations. If on April 15 the federal and state governments, local entities, the Social Security system, and the new health-care programs can claim 70 percent of the income of the top 5 percent of taxpayers, then that is considered a public good — every bit as valuable as funding new programs, and one worth risking insolvency.

    Individual compensation is now seen as arbitrary and, by extension, inherently unfair. A high income is now rationalized as having less to do with market-driven needs, acquired skills, a higher level of education, innate intelligence, inheritance, hard work, or accepting risk. Rather income is seen more as luck-driven, cruelly capricious, unfair — even immoral, in that some are rewarded arbitrarily on the basis of race, class, and gender advantages, others for their overweening greed and ambition, and still more for their quasi-criminality.

    “Patriotic” federal healers must then step in to “spread the wealth.” Through redistributive tax rates, they can “treat” the illness that the private sector has caused. After all, there is no intrinsic reason why an auto fabricator makes $60 in hourly wages and benefits, while a young investment banker finagles $500.

    Or, in the president’s own language, the government must equalize the circumstances of the “waitress” with those of the “lucky.” It is thus a fitting and proper role of the new federal government to rectify imbalances of compensation — at least for those outside the anointed Guardian class. In a 2001 interview Obama in fact outlined the desirable political circumstances that would lead government to enforce equality of results when he elaborated on what he called an “actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change.”

    Still, why would intelligent politicians try to ram through, in mere weeks, a thousand pages of health-care gibberish — its details outsourced to far-left elements in the Congress (and their staffers) — that few in the cabinet had ever read or even knew much about?

    Once again, I don’t think health care per se was ever really the issue. When pressed, no one in the administration seemed to know whether illegal aliens were covered. Few cared why young people do not divert some of their entertainment expenditures to a modest investment in private catastrophic coverage.

    Warnings that Canadians already have their health care rationed, wait in long lines, and are denied timely and critical procedures also did not seem to matter. And no attention was paid to statistics suggesting that, if we exclude homicides and auto accidents, Americans live as long on average as anyone in the industrial world, and have better chances of surviving longer with heart disease and cancer. That the average American did not wish to radically alter his existing plan, and that he understood that the uninsured really did have access to health care, albeit in a wasteful manner at the emergency room, was likewise of no concern.

    The issue again was larger, and involved a vast reinterpretation of how America receives health care. Whether more or fewer Americans would get better or worse access and cheaper or more expensive care, or whether the government can or cannot afford such new entitlements, oddly seemed largely secondary to the crux of the debate.

    Instead, the notion that the state will assume control, in Canada-like fashion, and level the health-care playing field was the real concern. “They” (the few) will now have the same care as “we” (the many). Whether the result is worse or better for everyone involved is extraneous, since sameness is the overarching principle.

    We can discern this same mandated egalitarianism beneath many of the administration’s recent policy initiatives. Obama is not a pragmatist, as he insisted, nor even a liberal, as charged.

    Rather, he is a statist. The president believes that a select group of affluent, highly educated technocrats — cosmopolitan, noble-minded, and properly progressive — supported by a phalanx of whiz-kids fresh out of blue-chip universities with little or no experience in the marketplace, can direct our lives far better than we can ourselves. By “better” I do not mean in a fashion that, measured by disinterested criteria, makes us necessarily wealthier, happier, more productive, or freer.

    Instead, “better” means “fairer,” or more “equal.” We may “make” different amounts of money, but we will end up with more or less similar net incomes. We may know friendly doctors, be aware of the latest procedures, and have the capital to buy blue-chip health insurance, but no matter. Now we will all alike queue up with our government-issued insurance cards to wait our turn at the ubiquitous corner clinic.

    None of this equality-of-results thinking is new.

    When radical leaders over the last 2,500 years have sought to enforce equality of results, their prescriptions were usually predictable: redistribution of property; cancellation of debts; incentives to bring out the vote and increase political participation among the poor; stigmatizing of the wealthy, whether through the extreme measure of ostracism or the more mundane forced liturgies; use of the court system to even the playing field by targeting the more prominent citizens; radical growth in government and government employment; the use of state employees as defenders of the egalitarian faith; bread-and-circus entitlements; inflation of the currency and greater national debt to lessen the power of accumulated capital; and radical sloganeering about reactionary enemies of the new state.

    The modern versions of much of the above already seem to be guiding the Obama administration — evident each time we hear of another proposal to make it easier to renounce personal debt; federal action to curtail property or water rights; efforts to make voter registration and vote casting easier; radically higher taxes on the top 5 percent; takeover of private business; expansion of the federal government and an increase in government employees; or massive inflationary borrowing. The current class-warfare “them/us” rhetoric was predictable.

    Usually such ideologies do not take hold in America, given its tradition of liberty, frontier self-reliance, and emphasis on personal freedom rather than mandated fraternity and egalitarianism. At times, however, the stars line up, when a national catastrophe, like war or depression, coincides with the appearance of an unusually gifted, highly polished, and eloquent populist. But the anointed one must be savvy enough to run first as a centrist in order later to govern as a statist.

    Given the September 2008 financial meltdown, the unhappiness over the war, the ongoing recession, and Barack Obama’s postracial claims and singular hope-and-change rhetoric, we found ourselves in just such a situation. For one of the rare times in American history, statism could take hold, and the country could be pushed far to the left.

    That goal is the touchstone that explains the seemingly inexplicable — and explains also why, when Obama is losing independents, conservative Democrats, and moderate Republicans, his anxious base nevertheless keeps pushing him to become even more partisan, more left-wing, angrier, and more in a hurry to rush things through. They understand the unpopularity of the agenda and the brief shelf life of the president’s charm. One term may be enough to establish lasting institutional change.

    Obama and his supporters at times are quite candid about such a radical spread-the-wealth agenda, voiced best by Rahm Emanuel — “You don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid” — or more casually by Obama himself — “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

    So we move at breakneck speed in order not to miss this rare opportunity when the radical leadership of the Congress and the White House for a brief moment clinch the reins of power. By the time a shell-shocked public wakes up and realizes that the prescribed chemotherapy is far worse than the existing illness, it should be too late to revive the old-style American patient,"
     
  18. Paladin

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    Dumblehub;

    This "mess" was caused by YOUR PEOPLE,,Barney Frank and all of your 'I feel your pain' liberals that MANDATED lending institutions give mortgages to people with NO MEANS TO REPAY.. Understand,,dumblehub?


    Classic socialism,,dumblehub.


    Dumblehub also wrote; "theives who took our rights to privacy when they enacted the Homeland Security Bill".




    The Homeland Security Bill was a product of YOUR PEOPLE. Do the research, for once..


    "Lieberman, Lautenberg Introduce New Homeland Security Bill"



    How do you like them now???


    You aren't very smart. The best thing for you to do is stop posting your stupidity.
     
  19. Dahaub

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    Pale and dim, gee and I thought you were back on your meds. Keep up the finger pointing guys but guess what? the Truth will one day come out and if you stop hollering long enough you will learn the truth. Nuff said on that. You will never get it and that's a shame cause we all deserve the truth. No=====I don't drink kool-aid. Merlot wine and Crown Royal or Canadian Club for me when I have one. The second ingrediant for a good drink is ice. That's all ya need. You guys have a good day and some time you just might convince someone of all the crap you put out about the last administrations boondoggles but then again most people are smarter than a starting out paperboy. And remember you have only one day to trick him cause they learn fast and aren't about to be cheated by a republican more than one week. Dan
     
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    You're a typical liberal,,dumblehub. You post many lies, and fail to understand anything.

    For you dumblehub,,from YOUR people;

    "Lieberman, Lautenberg Introduce New Homeland Security Bill"

    How do you like them now??? You are not going to like the next election!!
     
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