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We are so screwed !

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by amboy49, Jan 28, 2013.

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  1. amboy49

    amboy49 Well-Known Member

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    I just caught the tail end of a national news story on our local TV station. Apparently the chinese have figured out they can come to the USA as tourists and have their baby(s) on American soil. When the U.S. citizen turns 18 they can bring over their parents on a permanent basis. When 21 they can bring the rest of their family. Apparently this is occurring in California ( go figure ) wherein they are advertising local hotels and homes where the "tourists" can stay.

    We are so screwed as a country. I also see headlines re: a joint group of U.S. senators coming together to form new rules for changing immigration laws. I realize the Statue of Liberty says something about " . . . give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses . . . ." I think the phrase was meant to allow immigration on a legal basis - not crossing the border under cover of darkness and then having multiple children that claim U.S. citizenship.

    End of rant.
     
  2. RickN

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    I saw on the news over the weekend that Illinois passed a law allowing an illigal alien to get a drivers license.
     
  3. darr

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    This country has no problem with Chinese living and working here.99.9% are har working,conservative,law abiding people who add to society.You see damn few chinese in the unemployment or welfare line.

    While I agree noone should break the law to enter the country,your anger should be directed elsewhere.40 years ago even mexicans that came here illegally did so to work,make money,and go home.Believe me, I know from direct experience.

    Now illegals,much like many of the citizens of this country are only interested in receiving assistance of one kind or another.The libs just love it.

    That is the difference in the country now as opposed to 120 years ago.Immigrants came here and helped build the country.They truly had the American dream.Now the American dream has been bastardized.Starting in 1932,socially speaking,the country has been in a tail spin.

    But I wouldn,t lump the asians with the bad apples.If everybody in this country worked like them,and thought like them we would be in alot better shape.


    Darr
     
  4. amboy49

    amboy49 Well-Known Member

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    If any of the wanna be immigrants had the mindset of my perception of those in the late 1800's I would have more empathy for them. That is, it is my understanding they came here wanting to be an "Amrican" - to learn the language and assimilate into the culture. Not to be an African-American or an Asien American - just an American.

    We are continuously becoming a more divided and fractured society. I also don't believe there is no such thing as an Asian mafia (sic). Yes, for the most part, the perception of the Asian culture is one of hardworking and employable individuals. Hell, if nothing else, look at who the finalists are on the national spelling bee. ( humor and sarcasm for those unsure )

    I thought we were supposed to be a country of laws. That fat liberal bag of wind "Bid Eddie" was railing on his radio show today about the push for just giving all 11 million illegal immigrants citizenship. When can I pick the laws I don't wish to observe ? Sorry DARR, no sympathy here for anyone who doesn't follow the immigration laws.

    Amboy49
     
  5. Leo

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    I would not be so quick to give Asians a pass. They ARE NOT all hard working industrial engineers and Doctors like stereotyped on sitcoms! The Asian gangs are well established in all American cities of any size. They tend to be quieter and lower profile than Black or Mexican thugs, but they are at least as deadly, if not more so. In their communities they are not looked at as criminals, but heros, so they have total support. They are very good at setting up organized crime cells. In my opinion, they are far better planners and more strategic. They are very effective in maintaining their territory against the small time gangs. They are very effective with technology.

    While I am against gun laws relating to citizens, there is a loophole in the law that the Asians have figured out. If a non citizen (here leagally with a proper visa) obtains a hunting license, they are free to purchase a firearm in America. Most states a hunting license is available online or at Walmart, and citizenship is not required. Cute little asian girl college students are buying combat style weapons and lots of tactial shotguns, and the NICS is clearing them. Since they cannot keep them on college campus housing, where are those firearms going?
    You can be sure they are not hunting ducks for chinese new year celebrations.
     
  6. lctrapshooter

    lctrapshooter Active Member

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    We are so screwed?

    You have got that right, after the socialist "Liar In Chief's" term is up the Dems will run the Hildabeast. She will be a shoe-in, women and the libs love the Clintons, in spite of all the B.S. associated with them.

    Imagine this Hillary-Pres. Pervert Bill as First Man, Hussien Obama Vice-Pres.

    Will MOOCHelle be safe from Slick the predator ?

    Twelve more Years?

    WE are so doomed!!!

    Vaporize Em,

    Frank Fortyone
     
  7. Stl Flyn

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    Damn people! Ever notice that everything that is wrong, is always associated with people. Other human beings. Never yourself.
     
  8. CalvinMD

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    They are also allowing the sale of American high tech/ defense tech companies that are in the midst of economic problems including bankruptcy to the ChiComs...and also allowing them to purchase the classified govt defense contracts as well as the sensitive technology developed by that company...so they will know exactly what our intelligence/security/defense agencies are requesting of contractor companies for use to protect us from THEM...hows that for brainless leadership...shameful
     
  9. R.Kipling

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    OK StlFlyn, tell us what's wrong with you?

    amboy, and everyone else was pointing out a serious flaw in our system. And, it is serious. We don't have the facilities or infrastructure or financial ability for limitless acceptance any longer. What once was, is no longer. I see no shame in pointing this out, or recognizing the consequences of leadership negligence, or malicious intent for that matter. Do you?

    If you are personally so shocked by what you see as punishing immigration then step up and sponsor a family or two, yourself. If you won't then STFU.

    You always seem to know the benefit of everything, yourself, but you know the cost of nothing. Think about the burden on the actual tax payers of 11 million illegals(a very low estimate)? Leo is on the right track; gangs, welfare, voter fraud, school costs, drugs, law enforcement, grievous human damages, the list goes on and on.

    And, lets not forget the costs to our environment - 20 million vehicles spewing excess carbon into our air, illegal homes running unnecessary electrical power, critical water use.......... it just doesn't add up for anyone but a subversive radical, bent on change for the sake of change or preconceived personal revenge.

    Kip
     
  10. Brian in Oregon

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    There are some interesting demographics in the local Asian community. In my neighborhood the Vietnese fall into two different groups: Those from the old country and those born here.

    Those from the old country tend to vote liberal, support socialist programs, and expect their offspring to take care of them when they get old.

    To their surprise, their offspring often don't feel like paying a lot of taxes, so they vote against local govt taxes, don't support socialist programs, and feel they have no obligation to take care of the elderly.
     
  11. gdbabin

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    ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations), and the regulations that safeguard classified information are still in force and maintained. I have first-hand experience in both arenas.


    Calvin,


    I'd be very interested to learn more about the specifics of the transactions you refer to.


    Guy


    P.S. Brian, the kids you describe sound alot like real American yutes...
     
  12. R.Kipling

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    I have a friend that recently retired from the DOD/Army procurement division. 4 years ago he said that virtually every critical aspect of Army operations are being run by computer chips that are made in China, by Chinese government supported industry. Is there any doubt about what those chip contain?

    Those chips control everything...........We are so screwed!

    Kip
     
  13. noknock1

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    Amnesty sucks and it will again create a new underground market for fraudulent document vendors.

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    During the original amnesty, depending on which one an alien applied for, one had to show proof of residency requirements and/or proof of working as an agricultural worker, hence the Special Agricultural Worker (SAW) program. There were more, regardless, I know that that back in the late 80's, one could buy a "residency packet" from fraudulent documents vendors for $500.00 or more. This 'packet' was comprised of rent receipts, work stubs, etc.., so that illegal alien that just came across the border last week can prove that he has lived in the U.S. for ten years.

    Immigration Adjudicating Officer were not allowed to verify the documents provided to the officer. Complete fraud. Without the border actually being sealed, if the govt. claims there are 11 million or so illegals and this amnesty passes, mark my words, there will be closer to 18-20 million that end up getting permanent residency (green card).
     
  14. gdbabin

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    Silicon and soy sauce???


    I remember when the Made in Japan epidemic was in full swing, and the outrage when they were buying up all of our west-coast real estate.


    There are a butt-ton of those Chinese though--East Indians too for that matter.
     
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