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  1. jimx200

    jimx200 Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Way Off Topic: Jews and Muslims

    A copy/paste from one of my sisters...makes for some interesting facts indeed.

    Interesting Statistics

    The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000

    ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population.

    They have received the following Nobel Prizes:


    1988 - Najib Mahfooz


    1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
    1994 - Yaser Arafat:
    1990 - Elias James Corey
    1999 - Ahmed Zewai

    Economics: (zero)

    Physics: (zero)

    1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
    1998 - Ferid Mourad



    The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000

    or about 0.02% of the world's population.

    They have received the following Nobel Prizes:


    1910 - Paul Heyse
    1927 - Henri Bergson
    1958 - Boris Pa sternak
    1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
    1966 - Nelly Sachs
    1976 - Saul Bellow
    1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
    1981 - Elias Canetti
    1987 - Joseph Brodsky
    1991 - Nadine Gordimer World


    1911 - Alfred Fried
    1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
    1968 - Rene Cassin
    1973 - Henry Kissinger
    1978 - Menachem Begin
    1986 - Elie Wiesel
    1994 - Shimon Peres
    1994 - Yitzhak Rabin


    1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
    1906 - Henri Moissan
    1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
    1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
    1910 - Otto Wallach
    1915 - Richard Willstaetter
    1918 - Fritz Haber
    1921 - Albert Einstein
    1922 - Niels Bohr
    1925 - James Franck
    1925 - Gustav Hertz
    1943 - Gustav Stern
    1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
    1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
    1952 - Felix Bloch
    1954 - Max Born
    1958 - Igor Tamm
    1959 - Emilio Segre
    1960 - Don ald A. Glaser
    1961 - Robert Hofstadter
    1961 - Melvin Calvin
    1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
    1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
    1965 - Richard Phil lips Feynman
    1965 - Julian Schwinger
    1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
    1971 - Dennis Gabor
    1972 - William Howard Stein
    1973 - Brian David Joseph son
    1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
    1976 - Burton Richter
    1977 - Ilya Prigogine
    1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
    1978 - Peter L Kapitza
    1979 - Stephen Weinberg
    1979 - Sheldon Glashow
    1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
    1980 - Paul Berg
    1980 - Walter Gilbert
    1981 - Roald Hoffmann
    1982 - Aaron Klug
    1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
    1985 - Jerome Karle
    1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
    1988 - Robert Huber
    1988 - Leon Lederman
    1988 - Melvin Schwartz
    1988 - Jack Steinberger
    1989 - Sidney Altman
    1990 - Jerome Friedman
    1992 - Rudolph Marcus
    1995 - Martin Perl
    2000 - Alan J. Heeger


    1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
    1971 - Simon Kuznets
    1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
    1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
    1976 - Milton Friedman
    1978 - Herb ert A. Simon
    1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
    1985 - Franco Modigliani
    1987 - Robert M. Solow
    1990 - Harry Markowitz
    1 990 - Merton Miller
    1992 - Gary Becker
    1993 - Robert Fogel


    1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
    1908 - Paul Erlich
    1914 - Robert Barany
    1922 - Otto Meyerhof
    1930 - Karl Landsteiner
    1931 - Otto Warburg
    1936 - Otto Loewi
    1944 - Joseph Erlanger
    1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
    1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
    1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
    1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
    1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
    1953 - Hans Krebs
    1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
    1958 - Joshua Lederberg
    1959 - Arthur Kornberg
    1964 - Konrad Bloch
    1965 - Francois Jacob
    1965 - Andre Lwoff
    1967 - George Wald
    1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
    1969 - Salvador Luria
    1970 - Julius Axelrod
    1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
    1972 - Gerald Maurice Ed elman
    1975 - Howard Martin Temin
    1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
    1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
    1978 - Daniel Nathans
    1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
    1984 - Cesar Milstein
    1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
    1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
    1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
    1988 - Gertrude Elion
    1989 - Harold Varmus
    1991 - Erwin Neher
    1991 - Bert Sakmann
    1993 - Richard J. Roberts
    1993 - Phillip Sharp
    1994 - Alfred Gilman
    1995 - Ed ward B. Lewis

    The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims!

    The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew that has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew that protests by killing people.

    The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

    Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

    Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them!!

    Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:

    'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel ' -Benjamin Netanyahu
  2. hoggy

    hoggy TS Member

    May 9, 2006
    I believe you are absolutely right.
  3. wdr-NY

    wdr-NY TS Member

    Jul 29, 2008
    Nail on the head.

  4. fssberson

    fssberson Active Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    I didn't see any Jews who were trap shooters? At least really good trap shooters. Fred
  5. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    Oh, nice going jimx200. Now the muslims will be rioting and burning because of your post.
  6. B682GX

    B682GX TS Member

    May 12, 2008
    Some may interpret this as anti-Islamic.
  7. phirel

    phirel TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Accurate information, but is the number of Nobel Prizes awarded to a nation or religious group a true way to measure the technological position of a
    the group? Remember, Jimmy Carter and Al Gore were awarded Nobel Prizes.

    Pat Ireland
  8. spitter

    spitter Well-Known Member TS Supporters

    Jan 29, 1998
    Prairie State
    Being a Jew, all I'll add is that while my people have traditionally been on the receiving end of most conflicts AND channelled our real and perceived oppressions into "professions" to escape our economic and social blight of the 19th and early 20th century...

    While we may as a people have been more sensitive to oppression, it is my recollection some Jews were slave owners. Don't cast Jews as mavens, we have our failures and may not have been as righteous as we could have been in every situation...

    BTW, If you wanted to see some good Jewish trapshooting, you missed our first ATA shoot in Naperville... this "son of David" knocked a 96 using steel on Sunday! (lol)

    Regards to all and respectfully offered,

    Jay Spitz
  9. Voolfie

    Voolfie Member

    Jun 4, 2008
    Wilmington, DE
    Had there been Nobel prizes in the ninth through eighteenth centuries, I think you'd see the results reversed. The Muslim world was WAY ahead of the West for centuries. THEY were the learned, tolerant ones in the middle-ages. (E.g. the words "Alkali", "Algorithm" and "Algebra" are Arabic) In my opinion, the rise of the Ottoman empire began their decline and WWI finished them off. Aware of their history, they are angry at their situation and their rulers (to save their own asses) have pointed us out as the culprits. IF we can help with the establishment of a stable, relatively democratic state in the middle-east - in Iraq - the Muslim world will take notice. Even if they don't recognize a separation of church and state, there's no reason why liberal or at least moderate clerics can't run things. But, certainly, things need to change. - John W.
  10. Bruce Specht

    Bruce Specht Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Near but not in chicago
    Muslim Nations, the educated few controlling the uneducated masses. Teaching hatered in the name of God. Why do any of us hurt each other in the name of religion?? It's not just Muslims they just weem to be the latest to feel that their religion is the only religion. Time to stop all the killing the United States needs to stop taking sides and draw a line in the sand.
  11. Ahab

    Ahab Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
  12. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Northeastern MD @ the top o the Bay
    Not to mention that if it were up to them radical folks over there....NO MORE Ham Sammiches
  13. bigk

    bigk Member

    Mar 16, 2007
    Were the Jews not involved in the murder of our Lord Jesus Christ?
  14. Chango2

    Chango2 Active Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    I beg to differ; Koufax was a pretty good trapshooter. He's Jewish and Vin Scully used to say that he was throwing "bb's" and he won more often than not. Also, Kenny Bernstein is pretty good too; he gets through the traps really fast.
  15. spitter

    spitter Well-Known Member TS Supporters

    Jan 29, 1998
    Prairie State
    Maybe we could get off this road... I see it leading down a cul de sac with little or no hope of getting us to a final destination.


  16. Bruce Specht

    Bruce Specht Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Near but not in chicago
    Jay, your correct it is an endless cul de sac with no final destination. That said, it's been this way for thousands of years, is this God's idea of how we treat one another at some point it has to stop. So discussion may help
  17. School Teacher

    School Teacher Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Louisville, KY
    The Arabs, long before the modern era, were quite advanced in mathematics and architecture. Radical Islam is the problem, not the Arabic people.

    Ed Ward
  18. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    bigk, quote: "Were the Jews not involved in the murder of our Lord Jesus Christ?"<br>
    Uh, aren't you overlooking a number who tried to raise their voices loud enough to save Him before Pilate?<br>
    And who do you think most of the new Christian converts formerly were?
  19. bigk

    bigk Member

    Mar 16, 2007
    Jimx200 if you think that the Jews are all such great people maybe you should find out a few facts about their forefathers.

    Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov.

    Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.

    Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize, wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).

    Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.

    Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.

    Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.

    Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor, supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White Sea-Baltic Canal.

    M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police.

    Slutsky and Shpiegelglas: commanders, Soviet Secret Police.

    Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret Police.

    Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army; officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and peasants in Spain.

    Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.

    Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army.

    Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser: general, Soviet Red Army.

    Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.

    David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.

    Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army.

    Mikhail Chazkelevich: general, Soviet Red Army.

    Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army.

    Arseni Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army.

    Haim Fomin, commander of Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).

    Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945. Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect.Khaldei continued to work as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972. His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco. N.Y. Times writer Vicki Goldberg exulted in the raising of the blood-drenched Soviet flag, emblem of the slaughter of millions of peasants and Christians; describing it as, "...a national (and worldwide) symbol of triumph, justice and revenge." (Jan. 31, 1997, p. B-26).

    Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee (JAC): new form of the Bolshevik YEVKOM, Stalin's recruiting conduit for funding money, supplies and political influence for Soviet Russia from world Jewry as well as the dissemination of gas chamber atrocity propaganda (cf. The Black Book).

    Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist.

    Samuel Agursky: commissar.

    Karl Radek: member, Central Committee.

    Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.

    A.A. Yoffe: commissar.

    David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin.

    Lev Grigorievich Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies.

    Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev): member of the Central Committee.

    Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer: commissar, Soviet Secret Police.

    Abraham Sutskever: Soviet terrorist-partisan.

    Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of three Stalin Prizes.

    Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.

    Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea.

    Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin.

    Henrykas Zimanas: leader of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.

    Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.

    In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police; the Politboro commander Jacob Berman (pictured at right) and commissars Minc, Specht (Olszewski) and Spychalski. These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.

    You can wash your hands of these people if you wish but dont try and blow smoke up my a**.There is quite a bit more if anyone wants to know the truth.
  20. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2006

    Did you forget that Christ was also a Jew?
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