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Washington Times calls Obama a liar.....

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, Apr 20, 2009.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The Washington Times<br>
    Monday, April 20, 2009<br>
    EDITORIAL: Obama's gun lies<br>
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    The "liar, liar pants on fire" argument usually isn't the most effective. But when it comes to guns, President Obama is lying through his teeth.<br>
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    On Thursday, while on a visit to Mexico, the president continued his Blame America First tour. "This war is being waged with guns purchased not here but in the United States," he said, referring to the drug wars that are tearing apart our neighbor to the south. "More than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that lay in our shared border."<br>
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    It is completely untrue that 90 percent of guns recovered in Mexico are from America. The Mexican government separates guns it confiscates that were made in the United States and sends them here to be traced. U.S. weapons are easy to identify because of clear markings.<br>
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    Of the ones sent here to be traced, 90 percent turn out to be from America, but most guns recovered in Mexico are not sent here so are not included in the count. Fox News reported that 17 percent is a more accurate number.<br>
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    Democrats aren't alone in repeating phony gun statistics. The New York Times, CNN and numerous networks continue to repeat the 90 percent figure with no reporting to back it up. The hysteria is used to create the notion that a major problem exists with American guns - and Mr. Obama is anxious to step in to solve that problem with a $400 million program to stop U.S. guns from going to Mexico. That initiative would include clampdowns on U.S. gun shops.<br>
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    It is ridiculous for Mr. Obama to blame Mexico's lawlessness on Americans as if the longstanding corruption of Mexican elected officials, judges and law-enforcement officers has nothing to do with it.<br>
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    One of the root causes of corruption is low pay. Mexican police earn $460 a month, sometimes less, which makes bribes hard to resist. There are about 350,000 policemen in Mexico. The $400 million Mr. Obama has promised for his anti-gun program could raise the annual salary of every Mexican cop by $1,143, a 21 percent increase. But the president wouldn't be interested in that because his real agenda is to pursue gun control here at home.<br>
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    The Washington Times<br>
    Monday, April 20, 2009<br>
    NRA official rips weapons-ban bid<br>
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    Kara Rowland (Contact)<br>
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    A top National Rifle Association official said the Obama administration is using the increasingly violent drug cartels in Mexico as an excuse to push for reinstating the ban on assault weapons.<br>
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    "They're trying to piggyback this whole phony issue on the back of the tragedy in Mexico," said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the gun-rights group, on CBS' "Face the Nation" program Sunday.<br>
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    In a speech in Mexico last week, President Obama - who on the campaign trail called for reinstating the ban, which expired in 2004 - said that while the prohibition made sense, pushing for it now would be a political non-starter. But in the meantime, he said, the country should enforce existing laws more vigorously.<br>
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    White House senior adviser David Axelrod said in another "Face the Nation" segment that the administration will "monitor" the issue, which is complicated by opposition from dozens of moderate Democrats from the more-conservative "red" states.<br>
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    "If there's a consensus, we'll move on it," Mr. Axelrod said on the program. "We're faced with an enormous array of challenges, and we need to make some choices as to which to pursue first."<br>
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    Pennsylvania Gov. Edward G. Rendell called on Congress to reinstate the ban, after three Pittsburgh policemen were killed recently by a man with an AK-47. But the Democratic governor said he understands Mr. Obama's decision not to raise the matter now, with major issues such as the economy and health care on the table.<br>
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    "But I think it has to be brought up in the near future, because every police organization in this country supports, virtually everyone supports, banning assault weapons," he said, appearing Sunday on CBS alongside Mr. LaPierre.<br>
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    Mr. LaPierre said that assault weapons are "functionally no different than any other gun" and that Mr. Rendell and other supporters of the ban are distorting the facts.<br>
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    The 1994 assault-weapons ban "was enacted ... on the basis of saying these were machine guns. That's a lie. They were rapid-fire. That's a lie. They made bigger holes. That's a lie. They were more powerful. That's a lie. It was lie after lie after lie," he said. "Congress found it out. That's why they let it expire, and lies that are found out don't get re-enacted."<br>
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    Mr. LaPierre also accused administration officials of misstating the percentage of guns used in Mexican crimes that are smuggled into Mexico from the U.S., challenging a popularly cited figure of 90 percent that Mr. Obama used in his speech.<br>
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    He said there is no proof for the figure, which has also been referenced by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.<br>
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    "I challenge the president of the United States and the media to prove that 90 percent of the guns used by the drug cartels are being smuggled," Mr. LaPierre said.<br>
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    "The only people that have ever put up their hand in the air and testified under oath on this is BATF, two weeks ago in Congress. And let me tell you what they said: 'I'm not sure where those institutes get these numbers,' " Mr. LaPierre concluded, referring to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.<br>
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    A recent Fox News analysis of the issue noted that the statistic only covers some of the guns that were submitted by Mexico to the BATF for tracing. Of those 11,000 guns, almost 6,000 could be traced, and more than 5,100 of those were linked to the U.S. - or close to 90 percent.<br>
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    The statistic excludes the 5,000 guns that could not be traced, and also leaves out the 18,000 guns from Mexican crime scenes that were never sent to the U.S. because it was obvious the weapons came from somewhere else.<br>
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    Mr. Rendell did not address the statistic.<br>
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    In the often-tense debate, both men echoed traditional arguments for and against increased gun control.<br>
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    "There's absolutely no reason under the sun, no rational reason that we should allow people to legally possess these types of semi-automatic assault weapons. They're made for one purpose. They're not used in a duck line for hunting. They're not used in the Olympics for target shooting. They're used to kill and maim people, and most often it's police officers," Mr. Rendell said.<br>
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    Mr. LaPierre argued that increased gun-control limits won't deter killers and other criminals.<br>
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    "Don't you get it? They're criminals. They violate all your laws," he said.
     
  2. Bruce Specht

    Bruce Specht Well-Known Member

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    And Obama lying is a suprise why???
     
  3. J.Woolsey

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    No suprise here, Bruce. I've come to accept the fact that he is a "World Class"liar. I must admit, I had that one figured out before the "Mulatto Messiah" was given Sainthood by the Entitlement seeking deadbeats and our educated idiots from up Chicago way. J.W. Damn a Despot
     
  4. Barry C. Roach

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    Figures don't lie.......but liars can figure.
     
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  6. H82MIS

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    Washington Times calls Obama a liar.....

    So did I,,,,,,,,
     
  7. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

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    He lied about Bill Ayers, he lied about Rev Wright, he lied about every campaign promise he made, he lied and took credit in the captain hostage standoff, he laughed at the economic crisis during an interview, and on and on and on. Basically, Hussein makes slick willie look honest.
     
  8. bigdogtx

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    Isn't that called "accurate reporting"????
     
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