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Was Grammie Right???? Healthcare Reform a Sham??

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by bigdogtx, Aug 3, 2009.

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2006
    I have never thought of myself as a conspiracy therorist, but I am seeing some things that grammie used to warn us about and I got to wondering,,,,BTW, I also ridiculed grammie and maybe I was wrong....

    The recent PUSH for governmental control of different aspects of our society is starting to set off alarms,,,,

    The bailout of AIG,,,,followed by TARP 1&2,,,,Cap and Tax,,,,bailout of GM and then letting them go bankrupt and telling the bondholders to GO SPIT,,,,PORKULUS bill which did nothing but try to buy votes, our bond auctions getting weaker and so THEY buy their own bonds, (monitizing the debt) etc.,,,,coming out and trying to limit pay at corporations,,,,they are trying to get toooo much control in the private sector!!!!

    The stock market just closed up again and euphoria is here again stating the "recession is over",,,,earnings are UP,,,,BUT revenues are DOWN,,,,houses are being purchased again, but most are much less and they are the forclosed ones for pennies on the dollar,,,,Unemployment is UP (which is how earnings are up without increased revenues) and the feds and the MSM are trying to hide or postpone the numbers from publication....

    Now they are wanting to SHOVE this plan down our throats,,,,without any discussion on the merits,,,,which would give them control of an additional 20% of OUR economy,,,,revenues are down 11% to the Treasury, Social Security and Medicare,,,,Arlen Specter et. al. at "town hall meetings" saying that we have to get these bills passed "fast" without reading them,,,,

    I am beginning to wonder if "our" government is just wanting to control more money so they can "hide" from us just how BAD our country has gotten into???? I mean if you think about it,,,,if they have another $200 Billion coming into the "Treasury", they can then funnel money to SS and Medicare/Medicaid and continue to buy votes like the "Cash for Clunkers",,,,I really see this as more control and not "healthcare" as it is being billed,,,,I mean c'mon, since when is "marriage counseling", healthcare????
  2. W.P.T.

    W.P.T. TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    If you look at the overall of what is happening, grammie was a lot righter than he was wrong on many issues ... He didn't have a crystal ball just some common sense as to the direction in which we are all traveling thanks to the Government and all of the reform issues, bail outs, health care issues, and the list goes on and on ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
  3. chuckles

    chuckles Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Tip of the IceBerg re Things to do....American Diversion...

    24-hour-a-day cable TV,

    the Internet,




    1.1 million retail stores,

    1,100 malls,

    17,000 golf courses,

    Britney Spears,

    Kim Kardashian,

    Housewives of Orange County, New York, Atlanta, and New Jersey,

    American Idol,


    Rock of Love,

    Flip That House,

    660 stations with nothing on,

    Las Vegas,

    Disney World,



    Mega-churches all competing to fill the void in people’s lives.

    Trap shooting,

    Skeet shooting,

    Sporting Clays shooting,

    Hand Gunning,

    Rifle shooting,

  4. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Green Bay Wisconsin
    When they stand up in front of the cameras and tell blatant lies about a bill they never even read, you bet it's a sham.

    When the Messiah wants an "internal security force" the size of the U.S. Army, that's not a sham.

    Between the 2 wars the Weimar Republic was taken down by a series of shams.

    Exactly like today. Doubters need to think about this, and google for facts.

    Make your own assessment. I hope for the people's sake there are enough right thinking individuals to put a stop to it.

    Grammie was not a stopped clock. He just could read between the lines better than most.

  5. chuckles

    chuckles Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Massive unemployment...

    Massive disenchantment with Obama and crew......

    It will all come falling down....

    All the Kings horse's, all the Kings men.....

  6. JimmyP

    JimmyP TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    This new Healthcare bill's only purpose is to bring control of the Insurance Agencies under the governments rule. they want the money. If Congress thinks it is such a good deal then why did they vote for themselves to be exempt from it? If it is so good for the American public it ought to be good enough for them. We need a house cleaning in Washington.

  7. Milkbone

    Milkbone TS Member

    Feb 8, 2009
    grammie was right far more than twice a day- that's because his clock ran backwards.
  8. grunt

    grunt TS Supporters TS Supporters

    Jan 29, 1998
    Thousand Oaks Ca
    Im with Jimmy. Good enough for me than its good enough for them..
  9. Ahab

    Ahab Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Try and Guess Who I am,,,

    I was born in one country, raised in another. My father was born in another country. I was not his only child. He fathered several children with numerous women.

    I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me. My mother died at an early age from cancer.

    Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

    My birth records were sketchy and no one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

    I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs & didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.

    I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them..

    That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and I embarked on a new career.

    I wrote a book about my struggles growing up. It was clear to those who read my memoirs that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

    I became active in local politics in my 30's then with help behind the scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40s.. They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.. That reinforced my conceit.

    I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization. Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

    I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances. This bolstered my ego.

    At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy. I was very critical of my country in the last war and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

    But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy. I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better and every poor person would be fed & housed for free.

    I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess. It was the free market, banks & corporations. I decided to start making citizens hate them and if they were envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

    I called mine "A People's Campaign" and that sounded good to all people.

    I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics & was able to gain widespread popular support.

    I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope' , together we could change our country and the world.

    So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities" like the Jews. My true views were not widely known and I needed to keep them unknown, until after I became my nation's leader.

    I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with.

    I'm glad they didn't. Then I became the most powerful man in the world. And the world learned the truth.

    *Who am I? *


    Scary isn't it?
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