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WANTED: Soft 1 1/8 1145 fps 16 yd load - SOFT!

Discussion in 'Want to Buy/Trade Threads' started by pullbangloss, Jul 22, 2009.

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  1. pullbangloss

    pullbangloss Active Member

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    Been doing some experiments for a soft 1 1/8 oz 16 yard load. Haven't found anything yet that's been really soft. However, there are a few requirements.

    I will be using Federal 209A primers and windjammer wads. Also, I hate cleaning my gun so I would like a clean burning powder.

    Other than that need some recommendations on powder, with grains, and hull. No Fed. paper hull since I don't have any of those laying around.

    Thanks to everyone in advance.

    Matt Krizinski
     
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    Why 1-1/8th at 16yds?

    The very best way to 'soften' a load is shoot less shot.

    Depending on what hulls you have to hand, 20gn (Grn/Red) or 21gn of PB (any straight-wall) would be pretty tough to get much milder, I'd think.

    You might match it with other powders, but I doubt you can beat it, however ±16gn of 700X might be a little cleaner.



    Bob
     
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    Hodgdon's website link above.

    Try 17.3 gr of Clays in any Remington hull w/ your Fed 209A and WJ wads.

    If this still kicks too much you can try 16.2 gr of Clays to drop down to 1090 f/s.

    Or you could go to 1 oz or 7/8 oz of shot.

    Adding weight to your gun will also reduce recoil.

    Is a Precision Fit Stock (PFS) available for your gun?


    Jason
     
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    A straight walled case such as a Gold Medal, Fiocchi, top Gun, etc will recoil just a bit less than a tapered case.

    However, to attain the same speed a pinch more of powder will be necessary.

    try 17 of Titegroup in a Straight walled case with a Federal wad. Use a one ounce wad, Titegroup is very dense and make sure you hesitate at the bottom of the stroke to fill the bushing properly.

    HM
     
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    Tonite I shot 3/4oz. #8 1/2's......can't get much softer in a 12 gauge.

    STS hull, Cheddite primer, 17.0 Promo, WAA12L with 20ga. .135 card, 3/4's #8.5's.

    Wayne
     
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    PULLBANGLOSS I have started to shoot nothing but 2 3/4 7.5shot 1 1/8 oz loads for everything My # 17 bushing Mec throws 16.2 grs of TITEGROUP with a Downrange DRRT-12 Green wad Rem STS 209 Primer and STS or Nitro Or Gun club HULL 7.5shot It is very soft I had several people I shoot with Try a couple and it is softer then there loads. I just change the wad to a Remington factory Target-12 wad stitched and have used them same loads with just changing the wad as far back as 30yd line for annies and buddy shoots.The guys I shoot with are amazed. Low recoil and it does not have a lot of muzzle report (flip) seems in my gun it comes back into you soft. Try a pound a see for youself.works just fine for me. good shootin have fun playin.
     
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    Thanks for the info guys.

    Matt Krizinski
     
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    just go 1 ounce, its as good as 1 1/8 and it kicks less, 2 3/4 dram
     
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    Autoloader

    Curt
     
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    Matt,

    If soft recoil is your big criteria here, I think changing your load to 1 ounce of shot, as others have noted, is the way to go. One ounce is plenty for 16 yard targets. I shoot 8-1/2 shot, so there are plenty of pellets in the pattern.

    Yes, you get more pellets with 1-1/8 ounces, but unless you really slow the muzzle velocity down, you'll still have more recoil than a 1 ounce load.

    That being said, in the velocity you're talking about, many powders will work fine. I like Hodgdon Clays (which, if you go to 1 ounce, Clays works super for that application too.)

    Some will claim different powders will give you softer recoil than others. I don't buy that logic. If its 1-1/8 ounces leaving your muzzle at 1145 fps, the recoil is what it is, regardless of what powder.
     
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    Thanks again guys. Keep 'em coming.

    My next step is to play around with a little Promo. We'll see what happens.

    Matt Krizinski
     
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