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  1. Shooting Jack

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    This is a real shock.



    THE MOST SWEEPING GUN BAN EVER INTRODUCED IN CONGRESS;
    McCarthy Bill Bans Millions More Guns Than the Clinton Gun Ban

    On Feb. 14, 2007, Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) introduced H.R. 1022, a bill with the stated purpose, "to reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes."

    McCarthy's verbiage warrants explanation. Presumably, what she means by "assault weapons ban" is the Clinton Gun Ban of 1994. Congress allowed the ban to expire in 2004 for multiple reasons, including the fact that federal, state and local law enforcement agency studies showed that guns affected by the ban had been used in only a small percentage of crime, before and after the ban was imposed.

    With the nation's murder rate 43% lower than in 1991, and the re-legalized guns still used in only a small percentage of crime, reauthorizing the Clinton Gun Ban would be objectionable enough. But McCarthy's "other purposes" would make matters even worse. H.R. 1022 would ban every gun banned by the Clinton ban, plus millions more guns, including:

    . Every gun made to comply with the Clinton ban. (The Clinton ban dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments new guns could have. Manufacturers modified new guns to the Clinton requirements. H.R. 1022 would ban the modified guns too.)

    . Guns exempted by the Clinton ban. (Ruger Mini-14s and -30s and Ranch Rifles; .30 cal. carbines; and fixed-magazine, semi-automatic, center-fire rifles that hold more than 10 rounds.)

    . All semi-automatic shotguns. (E.g., Remington, Winchester, Beretta and Benelli, used for hunting, sport shooting, and self-defense. H.R. 1022 would ban them because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip," and would also ban their main component, called the "receiver.")

    . All detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles-including, for example, the ubiquitous Ruger 10/22 .22 rimfire-because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip."

    . Target shooting rifles. (E.g., the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand.")

    . Any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle an Attorney General one day claims isn't "sporting," even though the constitutions of the U.S. and 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states, recognize the right to use guns for defense.

    . 65 named guns (the Clinton law banned 19 by name); semi-auto fixed-magazine pistols of over 10 rounds capacity; and frames, receivers and parts used to repair or refurbish guns.

    H.R. 1022 would also ban the importation of magazines exempted by the Clinton ban, ban the sale of a legally-owned "assault weapon" with a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity, and begin backdoor registration of guns, by requiring private sales of banned guns, frames, receivers and parts to be conducted through licensed dealers. Finally, whereas the Clinton Gun Ban was imposed for a 10-year trial period, H.R. 1022 would be a permanent ban.

    Please be sure to contact your U.S. Representative and urge him or her to oppose H.R. 1022!

    You can call your U.S. Representative at (202) 225-3121.



    Note that the introductory statement is in two parts and contains the words
    "...and for other purposes." which is more than a little significant-- notice
    the various additions inserted....

    Mike Baker
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    A BILL

    To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes.


    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives ofthe United States of America in Congress assembled,


    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.


    This Act may be cited as the `Assault Weapons Ban and LawEnforcement Protection Act of 2007'.


    SEC. 2. REINSTATEMENT FOR 10 YEARS OF REPEALED CRIMINAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO ASSAULT WEAPONS AND LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.


    (a)Reinstatement of Provisions Wholly Repealed- Paragraphs (30) and (31)of section 921(a), subsections (v) and (w) and Appendix A of section922, and the last 2 sentences of section 923(i) of title 18, UnitedStates Code, as in effect just before the repeal made by section110105(2) of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994,are hereby enacted into law.

    (b) Reinstatement of Provisions Partially Repealed- Section 924 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--


    (1) in subsection (a)(1), by striking subparagraph (B) andinserting the following:

    `(B) knowingly violates subsection (a)(4), (f), (k), (r), (v),or (w) of section 922;'; and

    (2) in subsection (c)(1)(B), by striking clause (i) and inserting the following:

    `(i)is a short-barreled rifle, short-barreled shotgun, or semiautomatic assault weapon, the person shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not less than 10 years; or'.


    SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.


    (a)In General- Section 921(a)(30) of title 18, United States Code, asadded by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended to read as follows:

    `(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the following:


    `(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof:


    `(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR;

    `(ii) AR-10;

    `(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic ArmsPCR;

    `(iv) AR70;

    `(v) Calico Liberty;

    `(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU;

    `(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC;

    `(viii) Hi-Point Carbine;

    `(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1;

    `(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

    `(xi) M1 Carbine;

    `(xii) Saiga;

    `(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800;

    `(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine;

    `(xv) SLG 95;

    `(xvi) SLR 95 or 96;

    `(xvii) Steyr AUG;

    `(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14;

    `(xix) Tavor;

    `(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando; or

    `(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or GalilSniper Rifle (Galatz).


    `(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof:


    `(i) Calico M-110;

    `(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3;

    `(iii) Olympic Arms OA;

    `(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10; or

    `(v) Uzi.


    `(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof:


    `(i) Armscor 30 BG;

    `(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12;

    `(iii) Striker 12; or

    `(iv) Streetsweeper.


    `(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has--


    `(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

    `(ii) a threaded barrel;

    `(iii) a pistol grip;

    `(iv) a forward grip; or

    `(v) a barrel shroud.


    `(E)(i)Except as provided in clause (ii), a semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

    `(ii)Clause (i) shall not apply to an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

    `(F) A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has--


    `(i) a second pistol grip;

    `(ii) a threaded barrel;

    `(iii) a barrel shroud; or

    `(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at a location outside of the pistol grip.


    `(G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

    `(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has--


    `(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

    `(ii) a pistol grip;

    `(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; or

    `(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.


    `(I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

    `(J)A frame or receiver that is identical to, or based substantially on the frame or receiver of, a firearm described in any of subparagraphs (A)through (I) or (L).

    `(K) A conversion kit.

    `(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determinedby the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'.


    (b) Related Definitions- Section 921(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:

    `(36)Barrel Shroud- The term `barrel shroud' means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel, but does not include a slide that encloses the barrel, and does not include an extension of the stock along the bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or substantially encircle the barrel.

    `(37)Conversion Kit- The term `conversion kit' means any part or combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a firearm into a semiautomatic assault weapon, and any combination of parts from which a semiautomatic assault weapon can be assembled if the parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.

    `(38) DetachableMagazine- The term `detachable magazine' means an ammunition feeding device that can readily be inserted into a firearm.

    `(39) FixedMagazine- The term `fixed magazine' means an ammunition feeding devicecontained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm.

    `(40)Folding or Telescoping Stock- The term `folding or telescoping stock' means a stock that folds, telescopes, or otherwise operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of a firearm.

    `(41) Forward Grip- The term `forward grip' means a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip.

    `(42)Pistol Grip- The term `pistol grip' means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.

    `(43)Threaded Barrel- The term `threaded barrel' means a feature or characteristic that is designed in such a manner to allow for the attachment of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. 5845 <http://www.law.cornell.edu/usc-cgi/newurl?type=titlesect&title=26&section=5845> (a)).'.


    SEC. 4. GRANDFATHER PROVISION.


    Section 922(v)(2) of title 18, United States Code, as added bysection 2(a) of this Act, is amended--


    (1) by inserting `(A)' after `(2)'; and

    (2) by adding after and below the end the following:


    `(B)Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm the possession or transfer of which would (but for this subparagraph) be unlawful by reason of this subsection, and which is otherwise lawfully possessed on the date of the enactment of this subparagraph.'.


    SEC. 5. REPEAL OF CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS.


    Section922(v)(3) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended by striking `(3)' and all that follows through the1st sentence and inserting the following:

    `(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any firearm that--


    `(A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action;

    `(B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or

    `(C) is an antique firearm.'.


    SEC. 6. REQUIRING BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR THE TRANSFER OF LAWFULLY POSSESSED SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS.


    Section922(v) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) ofthis Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:

    `(5) It shall be unlawful for any person to transfer a semiautomatic assault weapon to which paragraph (1) does not apply, except through--


    `(A)a licensed dealer, and for purposes of subsection (t) in the case of such a transfer, the weapon shall be considered to be transferred from the business inventory of the licensed dealer and the dealer shall be considered to be the transferor; or

    `(B) a State or local law enforcement agency if the transfer is made in accordance with the procedures provided for in subsection (t) of this section and section923(g).


    `(6) The Attorney General shall establish and maintain, in a timely manner, a record of the make, model, and date of manufacture of any semiautomatic assault weapon which the AttorneyGeneral is made aware has been used in relation to a crime under Federal or State law, and the nature and circumstances of the crime involved, including the outcome of relevant criminal investigations andproceedings. The Attorney General shall annually submit the record to the Congress and make the record available to the general public.'.


    SEC. 7. STRENGTHENING THE BAN ON THE POSSESSION OR TRANSFER OF A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE.


    (a) Ban on Transfer of Semiautomatic Assault Weapon With LargeCapacity Ammunition Feeding Device-


    (1) IN GENERAL- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, isamended by inserting after subsection (y) the following:


    `(z) It shall be unlawful for any person to transfer any assault weapon with a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'.


    (2) PENALTIES- Section 924(a) of such title is amended by addingat the end the following:


    `(8) Whoever knowingly violates section 922(z) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.'.

    (b) Certification Requirement-


    (1) IN GENERAL- Section 922(w) of such title, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended--


    (A) in paragraph (3)--


    (i) by adding `or' at the end of subparagraph (B); and

    (ii) by striking subparagraph (C) and redesignating subparagraph (D) as subparagraph (C); and


    (B) by striking paragraph (4) and inserting the following:


    `(4)It shall be unlawful for a licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, orlicensed dealer who transfers a large capacity ammunition feeding device that was manufactured on or before the date of the enactment ofthis subsection, to fail to certify to the Attorney General before theend of the 60-day period that begins with the date of the transfer, in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Attorney General, thatthe device was manufactured on or before the date of the enactment ofthis subsection.'.


    (2) PENALTIES- Section 924(a) of suchtitle, as amended by subsection (a)(2) of this section, is amended byadding at the end the following:


    `(9) Whoever knowingly violates section 922(w)(4) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.'.


    SEC. 8. UNLAWFUL WEAPONS TRANSFERS TO JUVENILES.


    Section 922(x) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--


    (1) in paragraph (1)--


    (A) in subparagraph (B), by striking the period and insertinga semicolon; and

    (B) by adding at the end the following:


    `(C) a semiautomatic assault weapon; or

    `(D) a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'; and

    (2) in paragraph (2)--


    (A) in subparagraph (B), by striking the period and insertinga semicolon; and

    (B) by adding at the end the following:


    `(C) a semiautomatic assault weapon; or

    `(D) a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'.


    SEC. 9. BAN ON IMPORTATION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE.


    (a) In General- Section 922(w) of title 18, United States Code, asadded by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended--


    (1)in paragraph (1), by striking `(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2)'and inserting `(1)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B)';

    (2) in paragraph (2), by striking `(2) Paragraph (1)' andinserting `(B) Subparagraph (A)'; and

    (3) by inserting before paragraph (3) the following:


    `(2) It shall be unlawful for any person to import or bring into the United States a large capacity ammunition feeding device.'.

    (b)Conforming Amendment- Section 921(a)(31)(A) of such title, as added bysection 2(a) of this Act, is amended by striking `manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994'.
     
  2. Bawana

    Bawana TS Member

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    OH SHIT! Thats everything I own. Glad they did not say anything about the ammo a person might have stored. I only have about 30,000+ rounds of ammo in my home made bunker in the basement.
     
  3. concordefamily

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    What guns would be allowed if this nightmare of a bill becomes law? Oh, thats right, none of them would be!
     
  4. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    "What is it, about criminals, that these jerks in congress don't understand!"<br>
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    This has nothing to do about crime. It will not reduce crime whatsoever.<br>
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    It's all about control. These people FEAR law abiding gun owners. They FEAR that we are armed and can resist tyranny.<br>
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    We must ask ourselves WHY they fear us. Could it be that have tyrannical plans they want to implement after all the guns are gone? Because that's the reason and purpose of the Second Amendment - resisting tyranny.
     
  5. Holypatterns

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    Recommended reading;

    Get your hands on the book "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross. It goes overboard in lots of places, but there is a lot of good stuff in it too. It is primarily about the BATF and their excesses. Warning.....it is long, 861 pages.
     
  6. Mac V

    Mac V Guest

    <blockquote><I>"It's all about control. These people FEAR law abiding gun owners. They FEAR that we are armed and can resist tyranny."</I></blockquote>

    I thinks is excessively paranoid to think that congress fears law abiding gun owners. I don't think they fear us; they just don't know how to look at a group of customers in a gun shop and tell the difference between the law abiding and the criminals. They haven't found a way to keep the guns bought by the law-abiding from getting into the hands of the crooks, and they can't find a way to squash the enormous black market in illegal guns. And since they can't find ways to do those things, they figure the next best thing is to keep any guns off the market altogether. They also haven't gotten it through their heads that taking guns away from honest people won't do a thing to keep them out of the hands of criminals.

    Mike
     
  7. Bawana

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    Devil's advocate, lets get something staight. I do call, I do raise hell, I do say something. So don't set back on your fat ass and say this person or that person does nothing to help. You do not know who I know or who I don't know. Besides I would rather have the ammo and not need it then need it and not have it. The same with the guns.
     
  8. AJ100

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    Shootingjack, THANK YOU SIR FOR TAKING THE TIME AND EFFORT TO POST THIS.

    The shame of it all is there are a LARGE number of "shooters" on here that own only trap guns and don't seem to care about any other firearms. I said seems.

    I hope this post will get as much response as the "cherry pie" shoot thread, but I doubt it. That is the sad fact.

    I for one will NOT forget what clinton, that psychopath, you would have to be to do the things he did in the oval office, did to our 2nd Admendment rights.

    AJ100
     
  9. AJ100

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    And before I get flamed for calling clinton a psychopath, think about it. You are the President of the United States. You hold the most powerful position on earth. On the friggin planet.

    You are in that room, the very room in which the most important decisions in history were made, with all it's history of GREAT men before you, and YOU DECIDE THAT GETING A BJ FROM SOME STUPID INTERN IS OK.

    If he have such little respect for that position, AND HIMSELF, no wonder the bum didn't have any respect for OUR rights. Now the people that thought he was the second coming(no pun intended)want to do it again. WE CANNOT LET THIS HAPPEN TWICE.


    Again shootingjack, with Best Regards, THANK YOU.

    AJ100
     
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    Things You Can Do to Defend Your Gun Rights, a book by Alan M. Gottlieb and Daved E. Kopel.

    Everyone should own it, read it, and become active.
     
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    I can hear the crying now when they pass this bill. 13 hits, on something this important and 80 something on naming a friggin dog.

    AJ100
     
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    Go to the top of the thread page. You will see "contact your reps" click on that and follow the directions. You don't have to be a politician to write them a note. Just tell them you want them to vote AGAINST any new anti 2nd Amendment laws. I always tell them anti 2nd Amendment and NOT anti gun. Thats what it is all about.

    Thanks for the help.

    AJ100
     
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    AJ alot of the people that responded to the cherry pie thread are demos. You don't think they are going to believe that their reps are going to take away their guns. They voted Clinton in and they will probably vote Hillary in too. f course the big city vote could easily vote in Obama too If nothing else it will be a Demo and there go our guns!!!
     
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    also, Unruly when the BATF get tired of your bullshoot, it won't matter if you have a 100,000 rounds they are going to come and get you and burn you out w/ the headlines of a gun crazed freak in the NY Times and every other newspaper for Rep McCarthy to write more HR bills
     
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    Recurvyarcher email me your phone number. Jim Burk
     
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    Len W, Here I am calling Sen, Cong and who ever and telling them to VOTE PRO GUN IS NOT BULLSHOOT as you put it. Just to let you know its BULLSHIT you wimp. We have to call all Sen, Cong and who ever to get the word out that they need to vote pro gun. Your post was uncalled for. What are you a Clinton lap dog? By calling these people is wrong then tough. I'm taking the time to do so are you? As for ammo, I would rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. This gov at times does cross the line when its comes to our rights. Waco and Ruby Ridge was a show boat for Clinton and the BATF to say to this country that the Dem were back in power and that the BATF had their boots back on from the Reagan years. Reagan put the BATF in their place when he came in to office after they ran wild with Carter.
     
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    Hello everyone - I see posts above that read "I e-mailed my rep, I hope he reads it"

    You need to CALL

    E-mailing does not count when it comes to registering opposition to bills

    Pick up the phone and CALL this is what gets tracked and this is what ties up staff time and gets noticed. Emails can be stored, deleted, read later, sent to another party to review and respond, etc.

    CALL YOUR LEGISLATORS
     
  19. Bawana

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    How do you even know that he even opens it and or read his email. Calling you know you got someone. Email you don't.
     
  20. halfmile

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    I get answers when I send a real paper letter, via the Postal service. Most ofthe time they are form letters restating the jerk's position, but I do get them.

    Emails have not had any results.

    Faxes are about 60/40 responded to.

    So hit the print button and waste a stamp already.

    HM
     
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