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  1. BigBadBob

    BigBadBob TS Member

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    That's what happens when the unions get busted and everyone shops at Walmart and buys foreign cars.

    Not trying to start a fight, just stating a fact.
  2. APrice

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    I was paying as much as 39 cents a gallon for gasoline in 1962. That's a little over $3.00 in todays currency. I filled up yesterday for $3.38 a gallon. Not a terribly significant change. A loaf of bread back then was about 49 cents. That's about $3.63 now. I can buy good bread for $1.00 to $1.50 now, so I can't say food isn't a better buy today. Best of all, I was making $125 a week in 1962, the equivalent of $904 today. My actual income is over four times that amount.

    Despite what you hear in the news, we live in the world's greatest economic environment. Don't whine, just vote out the liberals who want to give your hard-earned money to the mooches and leeches of the world.
  3. John Galt

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    Let's just make the minimum wage $100 per hour- problem solved and Copper's son, who apparently has no skills, can make enough to buy and American car and join a union so he will never have to be bothered to think for himself.
  4. R.Kipling

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    Speaking as a 44 year union member, I've just about heard all the union propaganda I can take. First of all, inflation is caused by the government(s) printing excess money. They need excess money to skim $$ from their cronie-capital scams. - ie Solendra, MF Global etc.

    Second, 3 years ago I screamed, yelled, begged and pleaded along with my son, to his (our) union to get my grandson into the apprenticeship program - not even a remote possibility - was the answer. You might find the reason a bit shocking, as we did.

    After the unions sold it's soul to the Obama campaign in '08 his Labor Department ordered the unions to accept 600 "Native American's" into their programs. Many of these inductee's were not even real Americans, but Canadians. Didn't matter to Zero. Many of them didn't stay active because it was inconvenient to their welfare and booze habits. I have nothing against Canada or NA's, but..........

    The long and short of it is Liberal political elites use the unions like bitches. It will continue to happen until the rank and file wake up and start questioning the boss-rhetoric. Members subsist while the bosses get rich.

    Think about this; Richard Trunka, Obama, Pelosei, Harry Reid, and many democrats in congress are all 1%'ers.

    Unless you're actively changing your union leadership, you're being willingly dupped.

    Rant off--
    IME,
    Kip
  5. Rick Barker

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    Well thank God the unions were not responsible for the Democrat Party or Obama being in office, Right?

    Right?

    hello?
  6. hmb

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    If you voted for the democrats you are now getting what you deserve. HMB
  7. mbm5770

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    HELLO RICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM RIGHT HERE. I'LL ANSWER YOUR KNOCK AT MY DOOR ANYTIME.

    Since less than 6% of America is Union ......sure you can beat on your chest that the Unions got him elected....freakin retard.

    The unions are the one's that fight for all the things that you people have now. 40 hour work week, medical insurance, safe working conditions, paid holidays, maturnity leave, retirement. Those are just a few. Plus lets not forget that without the Unions back in the day, kids would still be working in factories working around equipment with no guards on moving parts.

    What a shame......you can be an internet hero and run your mouth but I doubt you have the balls to stand up to anyone when it comes to working conditions or stand on a picket line to fight for you or your fellow brother or sister. And what is a "union".....its a group of people that stick together for one common interest. Kinda like a church, or a baseball team, or NRA.....group of people fight for everyone's common interest and not letting one person get rich at the exspense of everyone.

    If anyone would like to talk or meet in person to talk about this just send me a PM and id be happy to meet with you at your convience.

    Bryan

    PROUD MEMBER OF INTERNATIONAL UNION OF OPERATING ENGINEERS LOCAL 66

    P.S.---and just so there's no confusion about education I have a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering & Chemistry with a minor in Math. I do what I do because I love it. I builts things here in the USA....it employs those "nasty" trades people that built our country and its a hard working honest group of people........oh and 90% of us shoot regularly.
  8. Rick Barker

    Rick Barker Well-Known Member

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    Mbm5770

    If you are a regular to this site, you would know I am not a person who knocks union members, but union leaders.

    There is a big difference between the average union person who gets up in the morning, goes to work and then hand over his hard earned money to union leaders in the form of union dues, who then turn over 90% to the Democrat Party and 10 or less to the Republican Party.
  9. Rick Barker

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    Does anybody have that link that Bryan the dimwit, aka MBM5770 that shows the amount of contributions of unions to Dems vs Rep?
  10. Rick Barker

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    Gee, Bryan, still waiting for that knock on my door, you stupid little punk.

    You know, you portray the typical threatening union punk stereotype that most people have about unions don,t you?

    Maybe someone with an IQ hiigher than yours of 54 will explain it to you someday.

    But then again, maybe you don't have any friends?

    You want to know why unions are losing size and favor? Look in the mirror.
  11. timberfaller

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    Ya just have to love those picket lines!! I honored the ones I was involved with, but why? I'll admit, back then I was "stupid" especially after I found out why and what the strike was over!! Adults acting like crybaby children.

    Last one here is WA state, started with "kidnapping" then turned to cutting of fuel and air lines on Locomotives then ended in attacking LEO's!!

    Yep, Unions have their "place" today!!

    Glad I am a former member and not tided to the present extortion group.

    As for wages, they have stagnated. With inflation, they have declined.
  12. likes-to-shoot

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    "union loudmouth thugs "

    You might be surprised how many union members there are on this site who just quietly go to work every day and still have to listen to this kind of BULLSHIT from the likes of you and a few others on this site.

    Is all your BITCHING on this site going to change anything?

    Is all the complaining about union leaders on this site going to change anything?

    So other than calling fellow trapshooters names, pointing fingers and blaming the worlds problems on union members of this site, just what do you hope to accomplish?

    Oh, wait a minute, doesn't that kind of behaviour sound like a particular political party?

    Bill....... retired member of IUOE local 234
  13. Rick Barker

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    Likes-to-shoot (Bill)

    If you go back to the first line of my response to Bryan, I mentioned those union members who go to work everyday and mind their own business.

    Perhaps that is the problem. If more union members try to change the lockstep thinking of union leaders with Democrat Socialists, perhaps there would be more jobs for all of us union and non union.
  14. likes-to-shoot

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    Rick, I see what your saying but it looks like you were fishing for someone to respond to your post above his.

    And then as usual the primates pile on and the whole thread becomes a pissin match.
  15. Rick Barker

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    Bill

    BigBadBob said we have a piss poor economy because of union busting.

    I said it is because of union money that got Obama elected.

    Both statements could be true, but it is a documented fact union contributions to the Democrat Party are usually 95-97 percent, with only 3-5 percent to Republicans.

    I was merely debating a point made by BigBadBob, I did not make the first cast.

    Again, I am not going to accept the blame in starting this.
  16. SirMissalott

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    If memory serves it was the union that saved Harry Reid??
  17. likes-to-shoot

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    Rick....Food for thought...

    What you say about union money I would agree with. Now a question I have is what are the contributions of corporate (large and small business) monies between the two parties? I think you would have to agree that one shoe fits on one foot while the other shoe fits on the other foot.

    With these new campain super PAC's no one has any idea who is behind what anymore. Plus I can't help but think they are in the Democrats favor for the time being but as soon as they lose the election they will cry foul.

    Plus I'm not going to blame anyone for starting this as it goes back so far I don't think anyone knows when and who started it.

    Bill

    P.S. see what I mean about people jumping on the pile
  18. Rick Barker

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    Bill, I agree with you, but there are plently of large corporations that contribute to the Democrats as well and very little to the Republicans, again.

    Apple and MicroSoft are two examples.

    How much money do you think people like Warren Buffet and George Soros give to the Republicans?


    Between business and the rich, it is pretty equal.

    ...............and lord have mercy look at this story in the WSJ today.

    Just wants me to cry for the Dems..........

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    "Democrats are struggling to raise money for the party's national convention this summer in Charlotte, N.C., in part because they have barred corporations and lobbyists from contributing. Peter Nicholas has details on The News Hub.

    Now, one set of donors the party was banking on—organized labor—says it won't help pay for the event or will scale back contributions, partly because it is upset that the convention will be in a state considered unfriendly to unions.

    Labor unions chipped in $8.6 million of the $60.5 million the party spent in 2008 in Denver. This year, a number of construction unions, as well as the labor organization Unite Here, plan to give nothing, officials say.

    The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers gave $1 million in 2008, but it isn't planning to contribute this year. It cites North Carolina's "right to work law" that is opposed by unions, as well as labor's need to spend money on grass-roots campaign work. "Registration drives, get-out-the-vote drives and
    leafleting—that's where we can make our best contribution," said spokesman Jim Spellane."

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    Not because of Obama's policies, but because of a "a state considered unfriendly to unions."
  19. Skeety7

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    I just think it is COOL to see such interesting differences of opinions on a forum that you would expect to be all Republican. I guess this is a preview of whats to come. Interesting times we are living in.
  20. Catpower

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    Copper you might want to try to get you son to get in a trade school, community colleges are some of the best

    I've been in the HVAC business for about 40 years, and have always made a real good living, and never had to look for a job, and we are really having a hard time finding good help

    A good a/c tech can make $40-50 per hour and if he is more specialized it they can get $100 per hour
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