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Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Unsingle, Jul 27, 2010.

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  1. Unsingle

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    The long-anticipated Chevrolet Volt, Obama's Government Motors' electric car, will cost $41,000, the company announced Tuesday, leaving consumers to decide whether its environmental appeal is worth a price far above that of similarly sized conventional autos.

    Would make a nice golf cart!! Government will pay you $7,500 if you buy one!!

    I'll continue to drive my F150, thank you. Just more of Obama's BS.
     
  2. smoking357

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    And the first DVD player was $1,000.

    Electric cars are a great idea. We'll all have them, sooner or later. Electric motorcycles will be a challenge.
     
  3. shelly

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    practical electric autos have been just around the corner for 100 years now and counting

    of course the Volt really isn't an electric car- it's just another hybrid. It still has an engine which runs on- you guessed it- good ole gasoline.
     
  4. Ahab

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    Plus that $7500 that you get back will be taxed just like income!
     
  5. timberfaller

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    In order for them to take hold, you'll need to be able to charge them up!

    Right now most electric grids are at their max!

    Another problem, last time I checked NiCa once it is made, it can not be broke down so it becomes "toxic waste"

    Give me a Jeep Wrangler with a diesel motor, Its the best answer for my needs.

    Hybrid are and still a joke!
     
  6. Setterman

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    And where do you suppose that $7,500 rebate comes from? You and I! Tax dollars.

    What a crock. Giving a $7,500 rebate on this vehicle is showing market favor to a specific product by our gov't.

    Build the damn thing cheaper!
     
  7. Trappy12

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    The problem with electric cars is that they still have to be charged up. And how do you charge them up? Coal! I read that if we were all driving electric cars, the coal we would need to burn to power them would actually put emissions in a worse place than it is right now.
    -Trappy
     
  8. Indyrun

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    I believe the Nissan version is only $30k. While I always buy American when I can I have stopped buying Union. I think the Volt is a government rip-off made much more expensive than it should be because of the UAW bail-out. The UAW bail-out was a payback for the $70+ million the UAW dumped into the Obama campaign. Though Ford is also UAW I respect them for not being sucked into the government takeover. Fight Socialism, but a Ford! -Mark
     
  9. stokinpls

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    200 miles? There goes the vacation business. 7 days to get to the Silver Dollar? Fergeta 'bout it!
     
  10. wolfram

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    A lot of really big mining equipment falls into this design concept of electric motor drives powered by an on board diesel fired generator. The efficiency gains come largely through being able to operate the diesel engine under a steady load and optimal rpm and less power transmission losses as compared to conventional shaft & gear drive trains.

    I expect to see that type of technology filter down to the auto industry in the near future as a means of not only producing fuel efficient vehicles but vehicles that are high performance and reliable. But you gessed it, it won't be cheap but then again the cars we drive today are outrageously expensive compared to what they were 20 years ago.

    The Chevy Volt is probably not the car we all want but given time I think there will be a product out there that will put a smile on our faces, I'm thinking of a one ton rated truck capable of getting 30(+) mpg on diesel and capable of boiling the hides off all four 33" mudders if you so desire.
     
  11. Trappy12

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    The Leaf is cheaper, and all electric, but it is also a bit smaller than the volt. Costs around 26 bucks with the rebate which is almost $10,000 cheaper than the Volt (I believe).
    -Trappy
     
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    Even the current administration knows that the only way these electric cars will sell is with massive government subsidies-hence the 7500.00 (which I believe is a tax credit, not a direct rebate). Even at that, Obama Motors expects to build/sell only 12,000 in the first year (2011) and 20,000 in the second year (2012). Not even a drop in the bucket in terms of car sales. The car has very limited electric range (relies on (of course) a gas engine for any range at all, and requires overnight charging even for that. And until there are electric charging stations every few miles, it is useless for anything except short trips to work or to the store unless you use the gas burning engine. How is that better than a decent Hybrid, or even a good high mileage car like the Civic or Sentra? Just another example of this administrations reach for "feel good" solutions (to non existent problems) instead of actually doing something real like drilling for oil within the USA, constructing clean coal burning stations (Europe has many of these ultra low emission coal plants) or better yet, constructing Nuclear power plants. Actually, it fits the goals of Obama to restrict your travel freedom like other freedoms he has already restricted or eliminated, and those yet to come. "Good" serfs don't travel around without government permission after all.

    Jim R
     
  13. shot410ga

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    90% of all working people drive less tan 25 miles to work. And/or per day. That means that a electric car that gets 80 miles per charge will serve 90% of the people. For commuters I think they are great. And like everything else producing quantity will bring the price way down. I remember hand held calculators; when thy first came out in the 1970's, they were $150.00+. Today they cost almost nothing. And that's only one example.

    Electric (hybrid) cars are here to stay. Get use to it........
     
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    Trappy you are starting to make sense, maybe your starting to see this Obama fool for what he is.

    $7500.00 of MY money gowing to some loon to drive a glorified golf cart is bullshit.

    Buy a ford they are getting great mileage and you can get ac and drive like a human in the things.

    Bob S
     
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    Trappy

    That's why we NEED nuclear power to make a comeback in the USA.
     
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    Four years ago at Car Shows GM was showing the Volt stating it would be ready in 4 years we need a battery that will last. Well here it is its the same price, no battery, same gas powered car,60 Billion dollars later, sameol sameol listening to him lie today in the factory.
     
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    Tesla sure has a hell of a good battery, and it performs incredibly as well. Why can't GM do that? Oh wait, they can.
    And again, for the record guys, I am NOT an Obama fan.
    -Trappy
     
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    Like Trappy said - you gotta recharge those things, and where is the electric going to come from to recharge em? Tomorrow the temp is suppose to go back to the mid and high 90s and the utilities are begging people to conserve. Not enough power to run your ac now and then add your auto recharge????????????
     
  19. Trappy12

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    Now here are the Tesla specs.
    0-60 in 3.7 seconds
    245 miles per charge
    3.2 hours to charge
    Looks badass (built on a Lotus platform)
    -Trappy
     
  20. shot410ga

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    I wish they would make a Hybrid 1/2 ton pickup. I would buy one.
     
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