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Virginia SMACKDOWN to husseincare

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by bigdogtx, Mar 11, 2010.

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    http://belowthebeltway.com/2010/03/10/virginia-legislature-passes-law-banned-health-insurance-mandates/

    First of 34 states to follow suit....
     
  2. Don Steele

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    Ya gotta wonder if Obama will follow the example of his idol( A. Lincoln..) and just go ahead and suspend Habeas Corpus, declare all journalists who oppose him to be seditious,put'em in prison, then send in the U.S. Army to force those mis-guided souls back into his loving fold...???

    Don't say "it can't happen"...It ALREADY HAS. The precedent has already been established. You may only go SO FAR in saying "no thank you" to the Federal government before they (seem) to have the right to kill you if you don't see the wisdom of their policy.
    Thanks Abe....
     
  3. WS-1

    WS-1 Banned User Banned

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    Please take a few moments and look at the obverse side of the Great Seal of Virginia. On it, you will see "Virtus" with her foot on the chest of the prostrate symbol of Tyranny.

    SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS ! ! ! The Tyrant Must Fall ! ! !

    Kit Thomas (A born and bred Virginian)
     
  4. bigbore613

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    Sic semper tyrannis is a Latin phrase meaning "thus always to tyrants". It is sometimes mistranslated as "death to tyrants". It is most known as the official motto of Virginia .Born and STILL in VA , Jeff
     
  5. H82MIS

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    Don Steele, do you really believe the army would fire on the civilians of this country?????? I think not,,,,,,,
     
  6. gun1357

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    Did you ever hear of Kent State? Ron
     
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    OR the Bonus March on Washington by war vets in 1932...
     
  8. WS-1

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    Don't forget Lexington and Concord. And please don't forget Yorktown.

    It might not have been pretty, but "We The People" won.

    Obama is not one of us. Thank you. Kit Thomas
     
  9. bigdogtx

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    Gotta love Idaho....

    Idaho first to sign law aimed at health care plan

    By JOHN MILLER (AP)

    BOISE, Idaho — Idaho took the lead in a growing, nationwide fight against health care overhaul Wednesday when its governor became the first to sign a measure requiring the state attorney general to sue the federal government if residents are forced to buy health insurance.

    Similar legislation is pending in 37 other states.

    Constitutional law experts say the movement is mostly symbolic because federal laws supersede those of the states.

    But the state measures reflect a growing frustration with President President Barack Obama's health care overhaul. The proposal would cover some 30 million uninsured people, end insurance practices such as denying coverage to those with pre-existing conditions, require almost all Americans to get coverage by law, and try to slow the cost of medical care nationwide.

    Democratic leaders hope to vote on it this weekend.

    With Washington closing in on a deal in the months-long battle over health care overhaul, Republican state lawmakers opposed to the measure are stepping up opposition.

    Otter, a Republican, said he believes any future lawsuit from Idaho has a legitimate shot of winning, despite what the naysayers say.
    "The ivory tower folks will tell you, 'No, they're not going anywhere,' " he told reporters. "But I'll tell you what, you get 36 states, that's a critical mass. That's a constitutional mass."

    Last week, Virginia legislators passed a measure similar to Idaho's new law, but Otter was the first state chief executive to sign such a bill, according to the American Legislative Exchange Council, which created model legislation for Idaho and other states. The Washington, D.C.,-based nonprofit group promotes limited government.

    "Congress is planning to force an unconstitutional mandate on the states," said Herrera, the group's health task force director.

    Otter already warned U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in December that Idaho was considering litigation. He signed the bill during his first public ceremony of the 2010 Legislature.

    "What the Idaho Health Freedom Act says is that the citizens of our state won't be subject to another federal mandate or turn over another part of their life to government control," Otter said.

    Minority Democrats in Idaho who opposed the bill called the lawsuits frivolous.

    Senate Minority Leader Kate Kelly, D-Boise, also complained about the bill's possible price tag. Those who drafted the new law say enforcement may require an additional Idaho deputy attorney general with an annual salary of $100,000 a year.

    Kelly said that was irresponsible when Idaho is grappling with a $200 million budget hole.

    "For Democrats in the Legislature, our priority is jobs," she said. "We'd rather Gov. Otter was holding a signing ceremony for (a jobs package) meant to put Idaho residents back to work."

    Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
     
  10. MIROBIN

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    The best way to fix the health care problem is to close our borders, and ship the 20 millon illegal aliens out of our country. Every time they get a running nose they go straight to the ER at a $1000 dollars instead of going to a doctors office for $50 then guess who pays for it Not Them.
     
  11. tom-n8ies

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    First two things they need to do to lower health care costs is round up the illegals and send them back like Ike did. Next pay the going rate so the providers do not have to charge everyone else more.

    The government is it's own biggest problem. How can they lower costs with a bill that creates over 100 bureaus and employs thousands and thousands of people to run them?

    Just more people sucking money out of the rest of us that are doing real work.

    You couldn't run a business like that.

    What they need to do for jobs is allow off shore drilling and quit buying oil from countries who use the money to support terrorist activities.

    Instead they are pushing jobs in the windmill, solar industry and about to hire thousands of heath care bureaucrats that do no good.

    Windmills each cost one million dollars to install, I don't think they can possibly produce one million dollars worth of electricity before they need to be replaced. If they could someone would have been doing it all along.

    I heard most all these windmill and solar parts are going to come from overseas.

    That will really help with jobs here.

    tom
     
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