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Vertigo and shooting

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by dward, Mar 4, 2010.

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  1. dward

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    Last Saturday night I was in bed and the room started spinning and unfortunately it wasn't from being drunk. Since then I have been to the doctor and figured out that I've got a problem with Vertigo and it originates in my right inner ear. The doc put me on a prednisone pack and so far it hasn't changed much but I have determined what trips the spinning trigger and believe me it's not fun. I went shooting Saturday morning, but it wasn't until 12+ hours later that I experienced the spinning.

    As it's caused by loose material in the inner ear, I was wondering if shooting can have anything to do with promoting the "loosening" up of what ever comes loose. Anyone have any insight on this.............I'm getting sick of watching the world spin around me when I turn my head the wrong way!

    Dan
     
  2. high 2

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    I`ve had the same thing. Dr. told me it could be from some kind of force that dislodges the crystals in the ear. I did the therapy and still have it from time to time. It should get better. Larry
     
  3. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    Dan, I had that happen about 15 years ago. I quit shooting for a few years. I was on station 4 and ready to shoot when the dizziness hit me. I put my gun down and did not finish the round for fear of shooting another shooter. This happened off and on for years until I changed doctors. The new doctor gave me some instructions on how to get the particles moving again. They stop and build up behind the inner ear and that causes the dizziness.
    I had an old co-worker have the same problem recently so I had my daughter scan the instructions so I could E mail them to him. If you would like a copy I could do it again. Bulge.
     
  4. Real Stinky

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    Dan,

    As a fellow sufferer, I suggest you check out www.menieres.org and, if it fits your situation, find a qualified ENT (ear/nose/throat specialist in your area for complete testing. They'll check you for everything, including a brain tumor. If it is Menieres, an underlying cause of Vertigo, they have a daily pill that can drain the excess fluid out of your ear. It's the only thing keeping me from hugging the toilet for five years now. From now on, you'll always need to stay ahead of ear fluid congestion, allergies, colds, etc, or start to enjoy barfing. Diet plays a big part too. Limited caffeine, alcohol, chocolate, salt, dairy, and more. Good Luck. Hank
     
  5. Conn. Man

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    Gentlemen,Thank you for bringing up this subject.I thought I was the only one with this problem.I went to specialist and got a diagnoses with problems in both inner ears.One ear had the crystal problem and the other ear had kinda like a virus in it.--TALK ABOUT THE BED SPINNINN!!!!!!!!!!.Its been about 6--8 months and its about 95% better.This is what curtailed my Trap Shooting last summer.I know where you guys are comminn from,best of luck,hope ya can all shoot again.
    Sandy Holehouse.
     
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    Been there done that.. NOT Nice..
     
  7. Bernie K

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    Real Stinky, I have had Menieres for the past 13 years. As you said hug the can if you can even do that I couldn't even sit up. I had to lay on my right side and not move. The spells started out short (1 to 3 hours ) and got worse and worse up to 7 days, just laying there. I live in Rochester NY, and we have the University of Rochester Medical Center one of the beat schools in the country for doctors. After 3 years of this ( I was afraid to go to any shoots out of town for fear of getting sick on the road ) I changed doctors and he perscribed a low doseage of Diazepam generic Valum. I only take it when I feel it coming on and have had no reacurance. I can tell if it's coming on if I tip my head back to look up and feel slightly dizzy. The doctor told me they think it's due to fluid in the inner ear, as you stated but thay really don"t know as they can"t see in there because of all the bone surrounding the inner ear. Dward, good luck. Bernie
     
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    First be sure that the condition is not being caused by something more serious. Your primary care doc or ENT specialist can do that. There are 2 sets of maneuvers that can be performed to move these "crystals" from the sensitive areas of the inner ear to less sensitive areas. These are the Epply and Sermont maneuvers which involve putting the head into different positions; they are performed in the doctor's office and are performed by many ENT specialists and even some audiologists. One or maybe 2 visits will be required. Success rate is 70% for no recurrences up to 1 year. If your primary care or ENT doc can't supply you with a name of someone who does this try the Vestibular Disorder Association. Good luck!.................................AJ
     
  9. Conn. Man

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    DOCJIM--AJ.

    Thanx for the good info,I can relate to that procedure,my Ear doc did it to me,made all the difference in the world!!!!!!!.The virus inner ear problem on the other side took a little longer.Walking out of the office I could see a big change in my balance!!!! Thank you sir for the good info--Readers take notice. !!!!.
    Sandy Holehouse.
     
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    I have been experiencing what may be Vertigo and I was searching on the the internet for info on it and found the above website.

    I have scheduled a physical with my Doctor to have it checked out but this website looks interesting if it does check out to be Vertigo.

    Stan
     
  11. dward

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    Thanks for the responses. Hopefully with some treatments and some time things will improve. I was thinking that since turning right starts the spins maybe I'll follow through on hard rights :<)

    Dan

    PS - Ray...sorry to hear you've got to deal with this lovely problem too. I've got to go out of town this weekend, but I look forward to getting your feedback at one of the next jackpots.
     
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    You should read up on prednisone dose packs. It's a catchall treatment with a whole bunch of nasty side effects. Mainly it suppresses your immune system

    Sam
     
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    It seemed like I got a bout of vertigo almost every spring. Fortunately , I haven't had it for the last couple of years. It would hit whenever I would tilt my head back. Bring me to my knees ! Once I was under my truck changing the oil and it hit. Felt like I was falling , but how could I , I was already on the garage floor !

    The audiologist said I would have to go through lots of tests. My doctor prescribed motion sickness pills ! My wife sent me to her Chiropractor ! Believe it or not IT WORKED ! Cracked my neck a few times and haven't been troubled with it since.....
     
  14. Annie Get Your Gun

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    Interesting thread - that it relates to shooting. I was diagnosed with benign vertigo and now am wondering if it is what caused me to nearly step off the pad when shooting. Certain angles would make me do this, I think the vertigo was so subtle I was unaware what was causing it. I ended up with a major fall hitting my head on a rock, no time to even brace my self for the fall, which made be tell the doc, she sent me to an ENT therapist who ruled out any tumor etc. she had a really cool eye camera and did all kinds of tests, one was tracking an orange ball that looked like a target. Two visits of manipulating my head and the crystals were back in place. It then moved to my other ear and I had to have that one done. I am anxious to try shooting again to see if it cured my moving off the pad. Now if the weather would just co-operate! Still lots of snow and cold in upstate NY, but lots of sunshine so hope spring is on the way. Diane
     
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    Think of your brain as a "snow globe". When you turn it upside down, it shakes up the flakes. There are crystals in the inner ear that work in the same way. Lay on the bed with your head hanging down over the edge. Hang your head first to the left for 3 minutes. Then "slowly" sit up for 30 seconds. Lay back down and turn head to the right for 3 minutes. Then "slowly" sit up. This allows the crystals to drain out.
     
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    The short time period you take a Medrol or Prednisone dosepak,will NOT cause serious side effects. Just follow the dosage & taper the dose as directed. Meclizine,an over the counter(NO Rx needed)medication usually works great. Try it on an off shooting day to make sure you don't get too drowsy from it. It will probably eliminate or nearly eliminate the vertigo. Most likely it will help to prevent or clear up sea sickness & although there are two schools of thought on this,dward it will even help from nausea if you are pregnant. They don't think it will have any effects on the baby. Since I don't support abortion,I do not refer to a baby as a fetus. How in the world did I get into this discussion?
    Joe Jordan
     
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    Mr Ward- My wife had a similar problem several years ago and was refered to a physical therapist that was a specialist in vestibular/ear problems. She performed several treatments that looked like she was throwing my wife from side to side on the therapy table. My wife is deaf in one ear (and doesn't listen out of the other one) so she has balance problems to begin with. After several treatments and exercises that she did at home she has been free of the vertigo. She has had a re-occurance or two but doesn't let it get out of hand before doing the excercises or see the PT. RayS would be unbeatable if he had normal balance!!

    Rem31TC
     
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    Like I stated above if anyone wants a copy (diagram) of how to manuever your head when this condition comes on I will be glad to E mail them to you. Read the post from "Annie Get Your Gun" above. It's a real easy fix in a lot of cases. Bulge.
     
  20. Phil Kiner

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    Hi- Di

    DOCJIM & ANNIE both describe what happened to me and the maneuvers helped a lot
    however it came back every spring for 3 springs and the ENT doc decided it was viral.

    So in addition he prescribed Valtrex (yes what you see on tv for genital herpes so no jokes guys-- I don't want anyone to know I have that problem too). Between the two it has been gone for over a year. The Valtex is an antiviral and apparently a viral inner ear infection was what was "screwing with the rocks in my head"

    Not trying to play doc but this is information that when relayed to yours might help.

    BTW there is one ENT that I went to that does not believe in the maneuvers but they did help.

    BARRELBULGE- would you please email to me-- I thought I would always remember how and now realize I do not so never hurts to have in case. thanks
     
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