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Value of Winchester Model 21? pix added

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by FrankJ, Feb 4, 2012.

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  1. FrankJ

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    A friend who can no longer shoot because of health problems has asked me to try to sell his Model 21. It is a 20 gauge with full chokes in both barrels and the barrels are 30 inches. It has a ventilated rib. There are a few small handling marks on the wood, barely visible. He has 3 butt stocks with cast for both right and left handed shooters. I looked on "Guns International" and there is a wide range of prices but none for this particular model. I want to get a fair price for him. Can you help me? Frank Novotny Wickenburg AZ My friend describes this as a "Duck Gun". The butt stock with the recoil pad is cast for a right hand shooter and the one without a pad is the original butt stock with neutral cast. The butt stock on the gun is cast for a left hand shooter. There is no indication that the rib is a Simmons. Serial number is 29113. Chambered for 3 inch shells.
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  2. Porcupine

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    Current Blue Book for a 20-gauge (NRA%/value): 100%/$10,000; 98%/$8,750; 95%/$7,500; 90%/$7,000; 80%/$6,500.

    Add 15%-25% fpr vent rib, depending on condition. Add 20% for 'Deluxe'-marked guns. Subtract 30% for double triggers with extractors. Subtract 10% for double triggers with ejectors.

    I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert about Model 21's. I'm merely saying what's in the current Blue Book.

    LA in MA
     
  3. eightbore

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    If you could figure out a way to post some pictures, we could give you a better idea.
     
  4. tudurgs

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    Is the rib original, or is it a Simmons addition?

    John
     
  5. dave-320c

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    Might want to get a Cody letter of authenticity.
     
  6. eightbore

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    Pre-1960 30" 20, field used, factory vent rib, original Monte Carlo stock. Assuming the Cody letter on the gun proclaims the stock original equipment and the 3" chamber markings original, and there is no damage to the gun,the gun will be worth from $6000 to $8000 in this depressed market. The non original stocks don't add any value to the gun. It's a nice gun in a scarce configuration. I would buy that gun, no problem, if I could see it face to face, but, unfortunately, I am in Maryland.
     
  7. tudurgs

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    Bill - How can you tell that the rib is original?
     
  8. EuroJoe

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    Simmons ribs were nowhere near that height.
     
  9. FrankJ

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    Many thanks for your input. This is a great site with many knowledgeable and helpful shooters. Frank
     
  10. eightbore

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    Frank, the original Winchester vent rib gun has a special, dedicated receiver with a hump at the front end where it joins the rib. Your gun seems to have the vent rib receiver, although a clear picture of that area of the gun would comfirm that. I see that you have priced the gun and offered it for sale. Email me if you need any further assistance or information about selling the gun.
     
  11. gun fitter

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    Most would be buyers south of 5000.00 but the stock's and their condition don't help much it is a tough market if the gun were perfect all origional your looking at 8000.00-11000.00 for the same gun.

    Joe
     
  12. Setterman

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    $7,000 asking price, lucky to get $6,500
     
  13. BILL GRILL

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    Setterman, The add I looked at said $8500.:)
     
  14. Setterman

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    I know. I saw that before I posted it. In the day, he might have gotten that, but prices are down now.
     
  15. eightbore

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    The 3" 20 gauge is not a Duck Grade. From 1954 to 1959, a factory 3" 20 was usually a "Magnum" Grade. Before 1954, the 3" 20 was not catalogued, so it could be any grade with a special order chamber length. The seller has not pictured the 3" stamping, so we don't know whether is is a Magnum Grade or some other grade with 3" chambers, either factory made that way or done later.
     
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