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Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by plabels466, Sep 5, 2007.

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  1. plabels466

    plabels466 Member

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    I went to the USPO to ship a 22 LR back to Remington for a warranty repair....I was told they would not ship it unless the firing pin was removed....I kid you not...I asked to talk to the head postmaster & the response was to much BS to try to explain why on this post.....What gives? Pete
     
  2. ec90t

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    Just take a copy of the shipping regs in with you! sometimes they have to be educated.Someone here had a link to them.

    ec90t
     
  3. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Many of the employees would rather refuse a firearm than admit they don't know the regulations.

    Go to the link above and from there you can get all the shippers' rules, and the ATF rules also. Print what you need and take it along. Wave it in the counter monkey's face, and be nice to him.

    Like"I'm sure not many of you guys get to do this, so I brought a printout of your rules along".

    Firing pin removed, sheesh. You should have pulled the bolt in front of him and repacked it.

    HM
     
  4. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    I would try a different PO
     
  5. primed

    primed Well-Known Member

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    I agree with ec90t. Take the regs with you. In all fairness to the clerk at the window, there are a whole lot of regulations in the Domestic Mail Manual, International Mail Manual and a large stack of other manuals. I think in total there a a lot more pages than the regulations for my business. I doubt if any of them know the minutia in all the fine print. You can always ask them to call the Postal Inspectors if they have any doubt.

    Provide the zip code of the office where you had issues and I would be glad to send them the regs for their future reference.

    Bob
     
  6. maclellan1911

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    I know this may not be good for some. I go to my favorite FFL and have him handle it. Packing and everything I have not yet been charged a price I do not consider fair.
     
  7. Gargoyle!

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    Next time they say that just look at them straight in the eye and say "WHY DO YOU THINK I'M SEND IT BACK FOR. THE PIN BROKE".
     
  8. X Trap 2

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    I like the one telling them the pin broke...lol Ray........
     
  9. plabels466

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    Again, thanks for your help... Garg - I gotta remember that one...Pete
     
  10. Dutchboy

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    I'd bet dollars to donuts that the ditz was once told you should take the BOLT out of a rifle before shipping. Bolt, pin, all the same, right? JMO, Dutch.
     
  11. bgf

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    I don't get it...why would a person tell the PO that he/she is shipping a gun?

    There is no rule requiring you to disclose what is in the package (other then HAZMAT materials) that I know of but I have been mistaken before.

    I print out a mail label from my computer (have an account on line with the PO) and go to the counter and tell them it is already to go. OK, thanks.

    No biggy.

    Bernie
     
  12. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    When you insure it they usually ask what is in the package, for obvious reasons.

    HM
     
  13. bgf

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    Ok...like I said I have been wrong before...but read the following:

    USPO shipping rule re;long guns:

    11.3 Rifles and Shotguns
    Although unloaded rifles and shotguns not precluded by 11.1.1e and 11.1.2 are mailable, mailers must comply with the Gun Control Act of 1968, Public Law 90-618, 18 USC 921, et seq., and the rules and regulations promulgated thereunder, 27 CFR 178, as well as state and local laws. The mailer may be required by the USPS to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the gun is unloaded and not precluded by 11.1.1e.

    ATF Rule re; USPO:

    B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service?
    A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.


    Were does it say to announce to the PO that you are shipping a firearm? If you do they MAY ask to see it. Registered Mail recommended but not mandatory.
    NO ID ON PACKAGE NOTING GUN INSIDE IS MANDATORY!!!

    Soooooooo...please enlighten me in the error of my thinking...thanks.

    Bernie
     
  14. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Try insuring a package for 2 thou and see if they don't ask what it is.

    HM
     
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    Bernie: You are correct. The Post Office will ask if the package contains any perishable, flammable, hazardous material, etc. You answer their question and mail the item. If you "elect" to inform them that a firearm is the content of the package; they reserve the right to have to package's content examined to insure this firearm is not loaded. Believe me, " I have been there and done that". Ed
     
  16. Buster 25

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    Gent's:
    BGF is quite correct.
    However, I would suggest in the futrue when this problem come's up Ask the window clerk to:
    1. Get the supervisor of window service, Speak with him/her not the all knowing window clerk.

    2. See there copy of the "DMM" Domestic Mail Manuel, go to Chap. 25, All the information necessary is covered there...an easy read, very clear, in plain english.

    Good Luck
     
  17. bgf

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    DB Bill,

    Do you know the difference between "common or contract carrier" and the USPS?

    You should read your own copied ATF rules.

    (B7) refers to shipping via USPS and long guns ONLY! No reference to notifying the PO is necessary. Last line in this rule refers to handguns...which are prohibited.

    (B8) refers to common carriers...i.e. UPS or FedEx. They must be notified as to it being a firearm.

    I rest my case.

    Bernie
     
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