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UNIONS trying to KILL JOBS...a-gain...

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by crusha, Jan 21, 2011.

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  1. crusha

    crusha TS Member

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    Well, here you have a good governor in SC, trying to keep good Boeing aerospace jobs for her state...and the crybaby union wants to sue her for exercising her right to free speech (waaaaah).


    I say, good for the Governor! It's about time somebody stands up to the job-killing unions and tells it like it is.
     
  2. crusha

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    (I guess they'd prefer jobs go to a Brazilian aerospace consortium, rather than have a non-union plant on "their" soil...lol).
     
  3. Leo

    Leo Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I do not get it...how is sueing the politician for liable killing jobs at a corporation not owned or operated by the said politician?
     
  4. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    Boeing just laid off 1100 workers. Boeing cut a deal with China to build aircraft over th there. Cheaper labor rates and tons of new people. Unions will be history if they want jobs.
     
  5. SirMissalott

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    I heard yesterday that obama's GM just penciled a deal to build a new car plant in me-he-co to the tune of 1000's of jobs south of the border. If that is so where's the UAW outcry??????
     
  6. halfmile

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    Empty rhetoric.

    As far as "right to work" states are concerned, the right to work is the right to work cheap.

    Union membership is up to the workers, not the state or the company. How dumb can you get?

    HM
     
  7. smsnyder

    smsnyder Well-Known Member

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    GM to invest 540 million for engine plant in Mexico. No union jobs. Want a good job move to China or Mexico.
     
  8. crusha

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    I guess when an "Obama-owned" company ships jobs over the border...the democrats & media don't notice.


    The "Right To Work" is simply the right to cross the idiots' picket lines when they decide (as usual) they'd rather bitch than work.



    When a few more plants go to China, Mexico, Brazil...maybe they'll get it.
     
  9. southjblue

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    I don't think its up to the workers in a closed shop----SJB---
     
  10. likes-to-shoot

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    A while back someone posted that Buzz-gun's wife ran off with a union man and that why he hates unions. I notice that every time she moves Buzz-guns fat belly around and can't find the union 'label' he posts garbage about the unions. Must have been another one of those nights last night.

    Just think only 7% of the non-government work force has such an impact on buzzy's life. lol

    Your (retired union) friend, Bill
     
  11. 682b

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    As a member of the local IBEW I got sick. They have had my employer hold my job for nearly two years. I still pay my dues but the benefits received far out weigh the cost of dues. I am Still employed with health insurance since August 2009 and waiting for a disability retirement. I am proud to be a union man employed by Honeywell Int. Do you think they would have keep my job? If you answered yes you are a fool. No craftsman is that important. We could not wildcat or we had no job so this notion that a union man could strike at anytime is pure nonsense. I work in a Right to work state. Every man in my shop is a union member. They know why they have a job. All you Union bashers should think would your employer hold your job for two years if you get sick. Ok you are self employed what happens then? You union bashers are just envious of those who have or had good union jobs. Union affiliation is not for everyone and trade unions don't want just any one. So if you aren't wanted or were not willing to make the sacrifice to be a union worker don't just bash those who did. Local member of IBEW LOCAL 666

    I am editing my post by saying some unions are better than others. But one thing for sure They (all) unions negotiate their contracts. The union members benefits wages and working conditions are fought for. These big corporations, states and general contractors sign off on the contract. That is their choice.JIM
     
  12. trinketshooter

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    When any politician fights to against unions, the only people that suffer are the regular working Americans. Regular Americans all over our nation work in unionized jobs, and these jobs are generally better paying jobs with decent benefits and better working conditions. Politicians and the ceo's of these major companies are wealthy individuals that could care less about the regular working man and woman. Regular people that work union jobs aren't going to become wealthy. But they may be able to retire without having to apply for welfare benefits. JMHO. Member of IBEW Local 22, Neil
     
  13. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    Gentlemen:

    Our friend smsnyder wrote, "Boeing just laid off 1100 workers. Boeing cut a deal with China to build aircraft over there. Cheaper labor rates and tons of new people. Unions will be history if they want jobs."

    For purposes of this discussion, I'll accept those statements as 100% factual except perhaps, the last sentence. That said, I'm sure organized labor, U.S. tax rates, and the overall cost of doing business in the U.S. versus other places had nothing to do with the layoffs or the China deal. Those aren't the kinds of business decisions made by liberal politicians.

    What's the connection between liberal politicians and business decisions at Boeing?? Well... the liberal's king (Obumble hisself) just hired Bill Daley as new W.H. chief of staff. On January 7, 2011 Daley tendered his resignation from Boeing's board of directors. Yea, THAT Bill Daley and THAT board of directors. The board who's members make and approve decisions about huge layoffs and where Boeing builds new planes.

    For those that haven't been paying attention, Bill Daley is the brother of Little Richie Daley, outgoing mayor of Chicago. The outgoing W.H. chief of staff is all around Chicago rotter, Rahm Emanuel. Rahm is busy campaigning to be Chicago's NEXT mayor.

    Slick Willie Clinton (who appointed his buddy Rahm to a $300k board position at Freddie Mac) was in Chicago a few days ago stumping for Rahmbo. Slick is still married (whatever that might mean) to the other Clinton. The one running Obumble's State Department.

    Maybe everybody else sees things different but from where I sit, this whole thing looks rather incestous. Nevertheless, these liberal crooks wouldn't do anything to aggravate organized labor. Then again, they might just screw taxpayers to pay labor off like they did with Gub'ment Motors and the UAW.

    sissy
     
  14. BAD 303

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    Unions and Hussein are crooked? Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. H82MIS

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    Just in case anyone really gives a shit, I'm driving my "LAST F@@@@@G" GM vehicle EVER !!!!!!!,,2005 Silverado,,,Ford will be my next truck,,,

    Communist bastards,,,,,,,,,,,,,,! (that includes O'numbnuts)
     
  16. shannon391

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    We never will be able to compete with China, Mexico. ect...unless you agree $2.00 per hr. is a fair wage.

    It's fraud trade not fair trade.
     
  17. halfmile

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    bigboy, right on. People forget that the unions are run by the members. All the corruption you have ever seen was because members didn't pay attention.

    Sort of like our country.

    I don't think IBEW pensions will need a bailout. Can't say the same for UAW.

    And most especially can't say it for government employees Pensions, especially Kommiefornia.

    30+ year;s IBEW Loc. 158

    HM
     
  18. whiz-bang

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    Question for halfmile. You wrote union membership is up to the workers. Not the state or the company. How dumb can you get? I own a small excavating business all by my self i am a third owner of another business and a half owner of another business. Are you telling me that the people that work for me and my partners can join a union and force me to sign a union contract? Since halfhmile you are unaware of the current economy down fall in home building were my business ventures are union expenses would put me under. Why is it that union equipment operators for the last two years have been asking me for a job?

    Since I took the risk of investing my money and my life into a business the day will never come that a union and there people will ever tell me how to run it period. That is up to the business owner and no one else.

    What you and your beloved union should do to encourage business to join unions is quite killing the goose that laid the golden egg. "Greed". And quit investing union members money into buying YOUR beloved corrupt Democrat politicians.

    Ex union member and business owner who chose to make it on his own and proud of it Jim.
     
  19. BAD 303

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    The saying did you ever get a job from a poor person is so true and so obviouis that it amazes me when people want to try and make the business owner poor so the emoployee can be rich. This is the liberal democat model Break the rich business owner so the employee can share in the wealth. Let the damn employee build a business from scratch and spend years and countless sleepless nights trying to make it profitable only to see the government regulate it to the point it goes broke. Socialism is all about redistribution of wealth and so are unions. If the government would leave business owners alone they could afford to hire more employees and expand. And since it is America those employees that thought it was so easy to build a successfiul business and be wealthy could go out and do so. No unions needed. Unions are nothing if not corrupt and self serving. Thye also cover for the poor performers and the lazy. 27 year Teamster local 710 member. The facts are the facts.
     
  20. timberfaller

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    Well said whiz bang, as a former union member, I did better after I woke up and got out. Worked longer and better paid!!

    Washington state is a "unfriendly" when it comes to small business's. Only places like Boeing get "breaks" from the state when they "threaten" to leave! New business's can't handle the tax burden and the union harassment's!
     
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