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Unions Lose

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by seattlesue, Aug 10, 2011.

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  1. seattlesue

    seattlesue TS Member

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    Wisconsin unions lose. AGAIN. ss LMAO
     
  2. wireguy

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    .........and spent millions of candidate re-election dollars doing it.
     
  3. Stl Flyn

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    Really, they (Democrates) gained two seats out of the six. They still do not have control, but they only need to have two Republicans jump ship, of which one moderate Rep. did not vote yes for the bill that started this whole sh^&. I think this will lead to more compromise as the Governor has already stated. I think that this bill had to be done, but the dictatorship process is what caused most of the resentment.
     
  4. truxx

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    Yep, those damn unions. get rid of the bums and we can get the blue collar workers back down to $5 an hour where they belong.As far as I'm concerned I am sorry I'm retired with my 2 union pensions that amount to $2800 per month. I would feel a lot better if I had no pension then I could live on my $1500 a month social security an not be on this guilt trip every time I waste money on trapshooting. Get a life guys, we weren't all born with a silver spoon in our mouths. Some of worked long and hard to be able to enjoy our last years.
    Pete
     
  5. Don Steele

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    I never had to pay a gang of thugs to protect my job. Kinda feel sorry for those who can't make any other way. My work has always spoken for itself and I'm doing just fine Thank You.
     
  6. Tripod

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    I bought a new kinda loaded Pontiac GTO for $2632 in February of 1966.
     
  7. likes-to-shoot

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    Jealousy at its finest again!!! lol
     
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    Tripod.........don't you wish you still had the GTO. Would be neat cruisin the boulevard in a machine like that.
     
  9. timberfaller

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    Quick question for union members and turxx,

    Did you take the time and effort to have your dues percentage that goes to PAC's directed to the Republican party?????

    Or did you blindly follow your "Bosses" giving to the Democrats that have for "YEARS" done every underhanded trick to take MY and MY grandkids guns away from them and me??????????

    Are you part of the solution or are you part of the Problem??

    Having a good paying job is one thing, trampling on the rights of other is a crime!!
     
  10. redjones

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    Having a good paying job is one thing, trampling on the rights of other is a crime!!

    Are you saying NO ONE in the Republican Party has ever Trampled on anyones Rights,Thats kinda out there dont you think.


    Greg
     
  11. slipping into darkness

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    I've notice that there still protesting in MAD Town, where do these people get the the money to be 7/24 protester???? I through the voter's voted for change and affirmed there first vote buy keeping the people that the Union wanted OUT---IN, what gives with the continue nonsense. The money the union pi$$ed away could have payed down some of there deficits!!! Plus why is the Chief union guy in Obama pocket and how much was put in his reelection war chest. inquiring minds want to know.
     
  12. timberfaller

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    No one of them that I have voted for.

    My gripe against the Repub. is that they get the power and then do nothing with it, until they lose it, then bellyache that IT didn't get done.

    I've never seen a real Republican try and take my gun's away. RINO's YES!

    The last corrupt Dem that got my vote was Jay Inslee who promised "never" to vote for a anti gun bill, along came the Brady Bill and with office call's 3 to 1 not to sign, HE DID. We kicked him out next election! Just like we kicked out Tom Foley and at the time he was Speaker of the House!

    fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!
     
  13. Tripod

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    Yes I do. I looked at one that was very similar a while back and he wanted $18,000 for it. It needed some work to get it up to snuff and I decided it was going to cost me too much to keep the wife happy about it. My friend who has a 66 convertible said I should have bought it as it was a steal at that price. I kinda saw it as a money pit trying to make it like new again.
     
  14. hrosik123

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    Rick, here is the vote break down for the CRA
    House Southern Dems: 7 for 87 against Southern Repubs: 0 for 10 against
    Senate Southern Dems: 1 for 20 against Southern Repubs: 0 for 1 against
    House Northern Dems: 145 for 9 against Northern Repubs: 138 for 24 against
    Senate Northern Dems: 45 for 1 against Northern Repubs: 27 for 5 against
    As we can see northerners made this vote happen. While only 8 of the 107 elected southern Democrats voted yea out of the 127 elected to both house and senate not 1 republican from the south voted for it. I know it has a lot to do with numbers but thats how it is. I doubt you can say it was because of Republicans the ammendment passed. Both parties made it happen.
     
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    I agree with you on that point. Right now would be the perfect time for the Republican party to step up and call for a fair or flat tax system. You can't get more equitable than that. All the talk about the rich paying more and all the class warfare is being upheld by both parties and I'm tired of it. Lets get to a point where everyone and I mean everyone contributes to the nations bills. JMHO
     
  16. halfmile

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    The ridiculous assumption that it is about "unions" should not go uncorrected.

    First of all, there are 2 kinds of unions. More than that actually, but let's stick with 2. The unions that represent workers in their efforts to get a level playing field and a fair wage from the person paying the bills is one kind. This includes trade unions, and a lot of factory worker unions etc.

    The second kind is the one that is all about POWER. Public sector unions extract dues from ALL the teachers, garbagemen, firefighters, police, and a host of others. The money went mostly to keep Democrats in power through high powered campaign expenditures and a lot of gifts to the members, like lifetime medical and full pay pensions.

    Problem with Number 2: Unlike the private sector unions, the persons paying the bill were NOT represented in any of the collective bargaining negotiations. This led to egregious abuses in the system like the attempt to get Viagra paid on the Milwaukee teachers benefits, and the Green Bay Emeritous program which gives retirees a years pay for 10 days work.

    Keeping the 2 types of unions separate in matters of discussion and emotion is difficult for some, they would just rather blast the UNION.

    Then we have the 3rd type, exemplified by UAW, and SEIU, both of whom got and abused power to an obscene degree. (Andy Stern, SEIU head, was the most frequent White House visitor for the year 2009,) Any bets on when the unfunded Auto workers pension gets a bailout? (Wanna see a monkey?)

    I wish there were a way to keep the dissing where it belongs instead of the blanket condemnation used here most of the time.

    For the record, Good on us! We won. 2 more Dems stil face recall, and that should be the frosting on the cake.

    HM
     
  17. BigBadBob

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    I geuss that all you union bashers should leave Sparta and the Grand right now because the WSRC was union built by proud tradespeople that also use that facility just like you. That work put a lot of food on the table for lots of families. Before it was built it was a union shop coal mine. Stop the union bashing please. I don't begrudge you what you do or did for a living so please don't begrudge me mine. It is like telling me what church I go to.
     
  18. BigBadBob

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    Does anyone think Winchester shells will be any cheaper in a few years when they move from Alton, Illinois to Mississippi? Hell no they won't be!!They are moving to Mississippi to avoid the unions. Do you think the ammo will be any better, being made by unskilled, untrained people? Did you also know that they were financing the move with the pension money they took away from their workers? Some of these people have been working there for years and will be out of a job soon. Oh yes, they were welcome to follow the company but they won't make as much money and will have to relocate. I for one have boycotted Winchester since they announced they were moving.
     
  19. John Galt

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    Whis is it that the citizens of Mississippi have fewer skills than those from Illinois and are any less trainable? Are the people in Illinois special? I suggest that the BBBish attitude is precisely why Winchester is moving. Working for Winchester in Illinois is not a lifetime entitlement. It's expensive to move, so there must be some good reasons for Winchester to do it, despite BBB's assertions to the contrary. I suspect the other side of the story makes more sense than the BBB side. JMHO
     
  20. likes-to-shoot

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    Rick........The union I belong to here in Iowa hires a lobbyist to lobby for road construction projects, water and sewer projects, etc. etc. Being a right to work state non-union companies get to bid and are awarded the majority of those jobs.

    I guess I fail to see where union workers are given special treatment over non-union workers. By the way I have close friends who do the same type of work I did that are non-union. To each their own as the saying goes, we are still friends and don't see the need to berate each other for our choice in how we make a living.

    From timberfaller:


    ""Quick question for union members and turxx,

    Did you take the time and effort to have your dues percentage that goes to PAC's directed to the Republican party?????

    Or did you blindly follow your "Bosses" giving to the Democrats that have for "YEARS" done every underhanded trick to take MY and MY grandkids guns away from them and me??????????

    Are you part of the solution or are you part of the Problem?? ""

    I for one have NOT contributed to the Political Action Fund since the 80's It's every union members right to not contribute to those funds.

    By the way Halfmile is correct in his description of types of unions.
     
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