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UN "Norming" our Second Amendment rights away

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Brian in Oregon, Nov 27, 2010.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, should be in the Politics section. Put it here to tick off Barry Cockroach LOL.<br>
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    From: incnf <Editor@incnf.org><br>
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    Date: Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:16 AM<br>
    Subject: [firearms-alert] Dillon - The Blue Press, Dec 2010, Pg 48-49; Reprint; "Norming Guns Away..."<br>
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    The authors wish to thank Dillon Precision Products, The Blue Press, for permission to reprint & distribute the following article.<br>
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    Reference: Dillon Precision Products, 800-762-3845, www.DillonPrecision.com/; The Blue Press, Dec 2010, Pg 48-49; Reprint; "Norming Guns Away: Why We Need to be Concerned About the UN"<br>
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    Norming Guns Away: Why We Need to be Concerned About the UN<br>
    by Paul Gallant, Alan Chwick, and Joanne Eisen<br>
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    We American gun-owners need to become more familiar with the process of "norming." The "norm" of civilian disarmament already surrounds our country and has the potential to nullify our Second Amendment right. When global firearm-prohibitionists speak about "norming," they are actually discussing the process wherein society becomes increasingly hostile to the possession of arms in the hands of civilians.<br>
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    This standard, or `norm,' was deliberately created during several decades of lies about the safety and use of firearms, their benefits to society, and the kind of people who possess them. And yet, we gun-owners remain unaware of its ramifications and its dangers.<br>
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    During the creation of this norm, we have seen the prohibitionists lie time and time again, magnifying the costs to society of private firearm ownership, minimizing their benefits, and creating widespread fear in the process. We know we're on the side of truth because we don't need to manipulate the facts to fit our philosophy, as do the prohibitionists. In two decades of firearms research and experience, we have never seen a deliberate attempt by unbiased firearm researchers to obfuscate data.<br>
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    The more people who accept the norm, the stronger the norm becomes. Owen Greene of Saferworld, an anti-gun non-governmental organization (NGO), elaborated: "It is generally agreed that controls on possession by civilians of Small Arms and Light Weapons [SALW, an ambiguous group of weapons that includes ordinary firearms] are a critical element of national controls to prevent, combat, and reduce SALW trafficking, proliferation and misuse."<br>
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    Greene is secure in the knowledge that this norm already has extremely vigorous and widespread global support.<br>
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    The new norm does not allow for self-defense, as government intends to provide that service for us. Even if one might actually comply with strict regulations and even if one might actually be permitted to keep his/her sporting gun at home, instead of being locked up at the local range, these guns will never be available for emergency use.<br>
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    One of the most damning ramifications of the new norm is that those few remaining gun-owners will be looked upon with disdain.<br>
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    This is the norm that is presently being codified into a global legally-binding Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) that will encompass all conventional weapons.<br>
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    It might be possible for our laws to be changed because of this treaty, even without a Presidential signature, or Senate ratification. The ATT is set to become the global norm, and the global firearm-prohibitionists would only need to wait for an opportune time to act. We expect that 175 of the approximately 200 nations in today's world would sign onto the ATT. Although many of these nations will sign with no expectation of complying with its provisions, this will not affect the strength of the norm.<br>
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    According to attorney Joseph Bruce Alonzo, "gun control laws could affect United States parties in the event that gun control becomes a customary international law [i.e. becomes a norm]…. Non consensual customary international law may arise as a result of international practice. This international practice may be evidenced by events not approved by the United States but eventually held binding on the United States."<br>
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    That's how this norm, or soft law, has the potential to trump the Second Amendment.<br>
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    John Bolton, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, recognized the norming process, and rejected it as being destructive to our Constitution. Expressing his displeasure, he wrote: "Much of the development of norming comes as a result of people who are dissatisfied with political outcomes they have achieved at the state and federal level and who are determined to take their argument into the broader international context, who see the norming process as the way to constrain the United States."<br>
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    There is another norm—our norm—which was bequeathed to us by our Founding Fathers. Ed Laurence of the Monterey Institute of International Studies complained : "An opposing norm that favors continued high levels of arms sales—based on the belief that citizens have the "right" to buy guns for self-defense, self-determination, entertainment, or to provide for their families—is preventing the development of a global consensus on small arms policy."<br>
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    We are the last remaining hope for the sovereignty of individuals and the civilian possession of firearms. U.S. civilians own about 270 million firearms, about 30% of the total global stockpile of 875 million firearms. But we estimate that only about 5 million people, out of approximately 70-80 million American gun-owners, have joined in one or more activist groups that have been formed to protect our right to private firearm ownership.<br>
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    This simply is not enough. We must get gun-owners out of the closet and actively working hard with us.<br>
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    How undamaged we and our rights emerge from this United Nations firestorm, that will engulf us for the next 5-10 years, depends upon how willing we all are to accept our responsibilities today.<br>
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    Alan Chwick, Editor<br>
    Nassau County News Flash<br>
    5 Brunella Street<br>
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  2. crusha

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    Anything about gun rights IS shooting-related. End of story.
     
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    Considering that the proposed ATT (Arms Trade Treaty) deals solely and specifically with the international trade of arms, how will it control the sale and distribution of arms manfactured and distributed within one country's borders?

    MK
     
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    This is the worst kind of article. All generalization. No facts. Who is "They"?

    What are the lies?. Garbage.

    Steve Schwab
     
  5. Brian in Oregon

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    So you've looked into this, and consider there is no threat from proposed UN legislation and treaties?

    That puts you at odds with the NRA and NRA-ILA.
     
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    I've been watching this for years. The Bush administration told the UN to stuff it concerning this treaty. The current administration will embrace it.

    Elections do have consequences. When will you gun owning lefties wake up?
     
  7. Brian in Oregon

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    The issue is that while there so far is insistence on an exemption option for countries to not include their domestic civilian arms in the treaty, there are still several countries that are, at the behest of anti-gunners, are insisting there be no exception, and that civilian arms be cracked down on. Mexico, for example, is insisting civilian arms in the US be "controlled". (If they aren't "controlled" now with over 22,000 gun laws, then you can see where this is going.)
     
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    Relax - a treaty, ratified or otherwise, does not override the Constitution. You should worry more about state inflicted gun laws like CA and NY, etc and a whole lot less about smoke. The NRA-ILA is just making noise like they have been for the last 5 decades and doing nothing just like the past five decades.

    You all best come to terms with the simple fact that as soon as it is politically expedient, gun owners will not have a political friend in the world. And when guns are all outlawed, only the rich will have guns.
     
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