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UC Davis Professor On Gun Violence

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by SBray, Jan 4, 2013.

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  1. SBray

    SBray Active Member

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    In todays Sacramento Bee Newspaper article, a local professor was interviewed giving his views on the current debates related to gun violence. I find it interesting to read his comments on the NRA, and especially what restrictive actions are likely to take place in this country. He encouraged people to communicate with others and write letters to their elected officials. Of course he was speaking of those for gun restrictions, and not the millions of law abiding gun enthusiasts.

    I have posted this thread to give other viewers and insight as to how people outside of the shooting sports world view the subject. I feel it is important for everyone to remember, if we want our views to be well received, we must be thought of as being rational people. I don't think we can convince others of anything if we come across as being an extremest and unwilling to compromise in anyway.

    JMHO,

    Steve
     
  2. APrice

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    Pretty amazing that someone who has researched violent crime for 30 years is still so misinformed or misguided. He seems to think that limiting mass shootings is the same as limiting mass killings. Still way too much emphasis on the tool.
     
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    "...for 30 years is still so misinformed or misguided."

    First Clue; "Professor"

    Second clue; "UC Davis"

    Third clue; "Sacramento Bee"

    what part of "Liberalism" don't alot of people understand??

    Amongst the Non-PC crowd, they are called "Communist" THEY like to call themselves "Progressives" today.

    Liked this part;

    "But if you go to a gun show in Reno, you see all the cars from California and you realize it's still a problem."

    Its called, "having our FREEDOMS taken away by Non-Representative Representatives!" DUH!
     
  4. wolfram

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    'He seems to think that limiting mass shootings is the same as limiting mass killings.' I don't know where you came up with that from reading the interview because nothing remotely similar was said. In fact the statement doesn't even make sense.

    Take the time to read the article carefully before jumping to your own predetermined conclusion. The professor wasn't saying that an AWB would be effective or even possible even though one is likely to occur. Rather he was suggesting we take measures to keep weapons out of the hands of individuals that have a history of mental illness including alcoholism. This would be the objectives of the background check and why the background check needs to happen with all firearm transfers.

    Now you can agree or disagree but just writing the guy off as a freako liberal does nothing to bring credibility your personal viewpoint what ever that may be. The thing to keep in mind though is that the vast majority of this country cannot accept being vulnerable to a system that makes it easy for a any punk wacko to get a battle rifle and take it to a public school for his 15 minutes of infamy.
     
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    He did say one thing we all need to do and I have done numerous times, write your elected officials, it's easy to do and might help get results we want
     
  6. APrice

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    wolfram, I'm sorry that you're having a comprehension problem. Try re-reading the interview. The point is that he has studied "violence" prevention for a long period of time and still seems to think that eliminating legal firearms (as in Australia) will eliminate mass killings. It would only help eliminate mass shootings, and do nothing about mass killings by knife, ax, meat cleaver, baseball bats, dynamite, C4, IED's, etc. If the "wacko" had driven a truck into and through a couple of classrooms, killing 20 to 30 children would we have anyone advocating legislation against motor vehicles?
     
  7. crusha

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    They don't care, they think that since the original purpose of guns was to kill something, they're inherently "bad." And if pressed hard enough on the point, they will not limit themselves to AWs, and will admit they think handguns and a lot of other things have no place in private hands.


    My uncle once told me that if the right to own guns in general, was ever put to a popular vote, it would fail immediately because of "all the women out there" and such (and this was an uncle who himself was not too crazy about assault weapons). And I've often gone back to what he said, and thought about it, and he's most likely correct. We're never more than one major emotional event away from having a majority of people be ready to ban nearly everything except single-shots. The fact we can still own good quality guns is almost a historical accident, a combination of luck and intense vigilance from the NRA and people like us.
     
  8. slide action

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    wolfram is a liberal hacker! It is clear he wants "SEVERE" restrictons on your freedoms.--One thing he DOES know is that the "CONTROLS" he is pushing are not about guns. They are about CONTROL! He and every other liberal thinker want a choosen FEW to have guns,but, you and I are not included! Personaly I don't give a rats #$%^ whether or not he gives "credibility those who think this guy is a liberal whacko (which he IS!) The truth is NO restrictive gun law yet has ever kept bad guys from getting guns (and none ever will!) At the time of Columbine there WAS a so called assualt weapons ban in place! Did a lot of good didn't it!??! timbrfaller is right-"progressive" is just a buzz word for neo marxist socialist!!!
     
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