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Trying to ID very old shotgun- see photos

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by Porcupine, Jun 4, 2011.

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  1. Porcupine

    Porcupine Active Member

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    Take a look at this shotgun; there are no proof marks at all anywhere. Does anyone have any idea when or where this shotgun was made? Many thanks.

    LA in MA

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  2. grntitan

    grntitan Well-Known Member

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    I can't ID it for you but i would like to see the muzzle of the gun if possible. Just want to compare with a gun i have.
     
  3. smokinbuck

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    Porcupine,
    Couldn't tell you a maker but it looks like a typical English/Belgian fowler of the 1870-1880 period. Pretty common pieces usually in 12 or 16 gauge with cylinder bore barrels, often damascus. I have had several over the years and some have made decent shooters.
    Mark
     
  4. Porcupine

    Porcupine Active Member

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    grntitan,

    Here ya go!

    LA in MA

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    Thank you kindly. The gun is very similar to a "Wall Hanger" i have. It also has no visible markings but is actually in worse shape than yours. I also do not have the ram rod. I don't know much about them but was told by a friend that is better educated on them that it really wasn't worth anything. Thats why i said they make great "Wall Hangers" and conversation pieces. I'm sure gonna pay attention to the info you get though as there are some very smart guys on firearms on this forum. Thanks again.
     
  6. WarEagle2017

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    That is definitely a Silver Seitz That has been restored by CalvinMD. I would know his fine work anywhere....
     
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    drhuner: That made me laugh!! Thanks!!
     
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    Hmph...I thought it was one of Tron's HR Topper conversions...
     
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    Buzz, Nope. No adjustable comb should have eliminated Tron's work for you. But, other than that, I can see the resemblance. Especially the wood finish work.
     
  10. Gunn

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    Google Muzzle Loader Forum. Those guys are pretty sharp. Tim
     
  11. smokinbuck

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    Porcupine,
    Looking at the muzle end of your fowler, it looks like it may have had a full length underrib that was cut off to make the 2 ram rod thimbles. The ram rod is definitley not the original, or very old. What are you going to do with it?
    Mark
     
  12. Porcupine

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    smokinbuck,

    I'll put it back on the wall where it's been since the 1970's.

    LA in MA
     
  13. smokinbuck

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    Porcupine,
    Not a bad thing to do. If you decide to turn it out, let me know.
    Thanks,
    Mark
     
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