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Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by WS-1, Jun 20, 2012.

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  1. WS-1

    WS-1 Banned User Banned

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    To cast a vote for anyone other than Mitt Romney in the upcoming presidential election is to cast a vote for Barack Obama and therefore a vote for the destruction of our Country as we know it.
     
  2. bigdogtx

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    don't forget the Senate and House as well....
     
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    That is the logical assumption. Even though he was not my first choice.

    ctreay
     
  5. GW22

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    False, as worded.

    Ongoing and accelerated decline and Socialization for sure, but not destruction. Even civil war and Jimmy Carter couldn't destroy this great nation, so I think we'll survive Community Organizer.

    By the way, when we elect a President based primarily on skin color and "coolness" nobody with a brain should be surprised when he turns out to have no idea what he's doing. Perhaps the female and minority voter segments will make a smarter choice this year than they did in 2008. The ever-growing American Slacker Class, however, certainly will not.

    -Gary
     
  6. Brian in Oregon

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    False. You can only vote for Obama if you check the box by his name.

    Tired old saying designed to bully others into voting how you demand they vote. It's been uttered for decades, and is just as false now as it was then.

    The reason it has to constantly be chanted is that the candidate it's supposed to help is a lemon. But those who utter this old cliche have yet to figure out that maybe they'd get more votes with a better nominee. Sadly, almost every election they cluelessly poke their fingers in the air, make little circles, utter their worn out chant, then clinch their fists in rage when they find it sways no one. It's almost ritualistic.
     
  7. Brian in Oregon

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    GW22, quote: <i>"By the way, when we elect a President based primarily on skin color and "coolness" nobody with a brain should be surprised when he turns out to have no idea what he's doing."</i>

    Obama is the ultimate example of unqualified affirmative action and tokenism.
     
  8. Auctioneer

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    TRUE. If you don't vote then you are in favor of Obama. You vote does count.
    I can sit here and admit that I have yet and hope to never miss an election.
     
  9. AveragEd

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    My current column is on the upcoming election and how gun owners help elect people like Obama by not voting.

    Ed
     
  10. GW22

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    Obviously the Obama camp hopes that 3rd party and obscure candidates divide the opposition. They know it helps the Democrat win because each of these votes diffuses the power of someone who is obviously displeased with Obama. This concept should be clear to anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of the process.

    Regarding those who choose not to vote, I always say "good." I mean, think about it - why don't people who are legally allowed to vote exercise this important right? The reason usually falls into one or more of five categories: They are either dumb, apathetic, discouraged by politics in general, they hate America, or they are simply self-aware enough to know they aren't qualified to help make an important decision. If a person who falls into these five categories suddenly decides to vote, it is vastly more likely that they will choose Democrat. And Democrats have long been keenly aware of this fact. Why do you think voter recruitment is almost exclusively a Democrat tactic? It's the same with mail-in voting and other ways of making it easier to vote -- the Democrats know darn well that people who aren't bright enough or interested enough to figure out how to register and get their body to the poll, are almost certainly going to vote Democrat if someone babysits them through the process. When Acorn or the other minions like "Rock The Vote" drag a junkie from beneath a bridge and helps him or her vote, who do you think they're going to vote for? The person who wants them to get off their ass and get a job? Or the party known for subsidizing laziness and irresponsibility?

    -Gary
     
  11. Recoil Sissy

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    GW22:

    "I think we'll survive Community Organizer."

    With respect, I think you are among those that are missing the point.

    History is littered with extinct civilizations. A few notable examples in our hemisphere are the Toltecs, Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas. Examples elsewhere include the Babylonians, Sumerians, Phoenicians, Maurya, plus the ancient Egyptians, Romans, and Greeks. They had and have two things in common.

    1. They all considered themselves bullet proof.

    2. They're all dead as fried chicken.

    I'm less concerned about our external enemies than I am those from within. When the internal enemies control the entire Federal government - as they did January 2009 to January 2011 - we're in deep sh!t. When more than half the newborns are financed by Medicaid (as they are in my state), we as a society are accelerating toward the cliff. Obummer and his socialist toadies are hell bent on mashing the gas pedal.

    Here's the deal...

    The U.S. may survive four more years of obummer. I might survive two packs of Camels a day for the same four years. The question is how much accumulated damage can the country (and my body) suffer and expect to survive long term?

    Even if the sorry pr!ck is gone after four years, the legacy of his massive debt and the two losers he appointed to the SCOTUS are the gifts that keep on giving.

    If (God forbid) obummer is re-elected, we'll end up with a majority of knee jerk libs on the SCOTUS. They'll rewrite the Constitution on a case by case basis to achieve the nanny state goals socialists can't get thru legislation. That my friends is something the U.S. will NOT survive long term.

    sissy
     
  12. GW22

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    Amen to all of that, Brother. Great reply.

    -Gary
     
  13. Steve Fischer

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    The object here is to get rid of Obama at any cost. A vote for someone other than Romney does not directly give a vote to Obama, but does take away a vote for Romney that could could make a difference in defeating Obama.

    With all the takers thinking only of themselves and wanting their "entitlements" like free money welfare, foodstamps, healthcare, etc, we will still have an uphill battle defeating Obama. This is going to be our only and last chance to change the direction Obama has put our country on.

    Don't waste a vote. Vote for Romney. Sure, he may not be perfect or the best choice, but there isn't any other available, and he's got to be far better at economics, foreign diplomacy, and just about anything else than what we have now.
     
  14. Brian in Oregon

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    I'd like to know if it was delusion, arrogance, or just plain lack of critical thinking that guided those supporting Romney that nominating a gun banner would automatically get support from hard core pro-gunners?

    What could POSSIBLY go wrong with that?

    Now other Republicans are being forced to back Romney because he's all they got. Some honestly point out he's garbage, but he's the lesser of two evils. Others are reinventing Romney as a friend of gun owners and a faithful conservative. I can respect the former. The latter are delusional.

    The only way Romney can get SOME of those lost votes back is to chose a VP who is friendly towards the Second Amendment, and embraces tea party values. Problem is, liberal is as liberal does. I can't visualise Romney doing this.
     
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    True. This choice is clear. Anyone who believes they can cast a 'protest' vote for a candidate who has NO chance of winning in 2012 is essentially casting a vote for BO. How? Let's say the vote count is 100 for Romney and 100 for BO when you go into the booth. You vote for Losertarian, who has NO chance to win. You leave the voting booth feeling good about yourself and the fact that you voted your principles. The person who comes in after you votes for BO, so now the vote count is Romney 100, BO 101 and Losertarian 1. If you had voted for Romney, the vote count would be Romney 101, BO 101, Losertarian 0. So instead of being tied, Romney is down by a vote - YOURS. Please note that 2 people just voted and only one of them voted FOR BO, but he is winning.

    You can tell yourself you are doing it because of principle, BUT your vote will, in the end, be essentially the same as voting for BO, because it's one less vote he has to overcome. A vote for anyone other than Romney is a vote less for Romney and, therefor a vote FOR BO. Any voter who doesn't get that and says "I vote on Principle", is blowing hot air and doesn't want to get it.

    There are only 2 (TWO) candidates who are ELECTABLE. And, Ron Paul or the Libertarian Party candidate or the Green Party candidate or whatever Party isn't one of them.

    You can vote on principle for a candidate who cannot win, that is clearly your right; BUT please, for Heaven's sake and for the sake of America, THINK about it before you do it. And, don't start bitching and moaning after the election because BO won.

    The question for this election is CLEAR. Do you want another 4 years of lies, incompetence and arrogance ? If you do, vote for BO or anyone other than Mitt Romney.

    Gene Batchelar
    Wheaton, IL

    PS Question. If there are 5 candidates and 10 voters in a room and any candidate needs a majority to win, how many votes does a candidate need to win?

    Hint: The answer is NOT 6.
     
  16. Brian in Oregon

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    And again, the horse is out of the barn door. There is a growing faction within the Republican Party who no longer put up with the "lesser of two evils" gambit because it enables RINOs. The problem is Republicans as a whole are shifting more and more left, leaving a rift in the party. The bleeding of Republicans to third parties, the lost elections of Daddy Bush, Bob Dole and John McCain and now the party defections over Romney still have not convinced Republicans that business as usual is over. Done. Finished. Kaput.

    This is why little math demonstrations, temper tantrums and name calling is not going to solve anything. Once Romney's nomination was fait accompli the wheels were set in motion. Again, the only way to turn this around is to get on board with urging Romney pick a pro-gun, tea party sympathetic, conservative as VP.

    My question is, is anyone here working towards that goal? Or are you just pointing fingers?
     
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    The Navy Seals took care of one enemy of the U.S.

    It`s coming time for the voters to take care of another.

    You figure out who that person is.

    I know what I will do.
     
  18. Bruce Specht

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    Yet again another Democratic supporter/ fund raiser faces criminal charges. What this country can't withstand is 4 more years of the crime ridden Democratic party headed by Illinois party members. Eventually it will all come out the most corrupt state bar none.
     
  19. trapshootin hippie

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    Our votes don't count anyways, its the electoral votes that matters.
     
  20. John Galt

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    that makes absolutely no sense, hippy. Our votes determine the electoral votes.
     
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