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Trouble With Handicap Shooting

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by 1100 classic trap shooter, Jun 5, 2012.

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  1. 1100 classic trap shooter

    1100 classic trap shooter TS Member

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    I shoot a Citori XT Trap 32" with a adjustable comb. I shoot a lot better at singles then I do at the 20 yard line or farther back. I have shot 48-49 out 50 a lot on 16 yard with the bottom barrel and improved mod choke. I have tried the same set-up on the 20 it did not do very well. I have shot the top barrel with full choke about the same results. Need some advise, thanks.
  2. Martinpicker

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    Me too. Same problem. What gives????? Martinpicker
  3. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    If you have adjustable combs, raise it 1/16th at a time until you are hitting the handicap targets like you know you can. This is a very common occurance and usually, raising the comb, is the cure. Good luck.
  4. SPACE GUN

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    I would pattern the bottom barrel (try a modified choke) then adjust the comb to get the gun to shoot just a little higher and try it on capps. When patterening the gun make sure you are not hitting left or right, sometimes when that is the case you can get by on 16's but not capps.
  5. Auctioneer

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    What I do is take one box of shells and sit on your worst station and shoot all the shells you have. Do that per station then shot a reg round there after.
  6. Barry C. Roach

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    Don't make it too difficult. Just raise your comb a 1/16th at a time. Go out and shoot some hadicap targets. Try to shoot "exactly" like you do from the 16 yd line. I prefer you do this from post 3 and have the targets set as straight-a-ways.

    Have someone sit back at the 27 and note where you hit the targets. If you start to hit more targets and you and your helper agree that you are centering the targets then shoot the rest of the targets. Still in the middle of them..... your done. If you're hitting mostly on the bottom half of the target then you'll need to raise the comb another 1/16". Go back and try again.

    Keep doing that until you are centering those straight-a-ways consistently.

    Learning how high or low you barrels are shooting is nice but it tells us little about how to shoot a moving clay. Use the board to make note if your barrels are shooting right or left. Get that done so you can determine that your barrels aren't crooked. Get that out of the way and then use the method described.





    Once you are breaking targets when you are making the moves you are comfortable with and knowing why you missed one, your there. KISS.
  7. romie

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    I did what Barry said yesterday. I have been having trouble with handicaps.I am ony on the 22 so I figured out what I need to do to break straightaways on post three. screwed it down and I know now it is set.In my case it was how I was cheeking the gun.I did a lot better 92
  8. senior smoke

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    Try slowing down a bit.
    Steve Balistreri
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    Try faster shells I use 3drm AA in a FULL .
    Salutations
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  10. luvtrapguns

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    What Barry said. I set up my gun to shoot 70/30 for singles. For the 27yd line I bring up the comb til it throws 100% high. 1150 shells from 16, 1250 from 27. Contrary to what I read above from another response, I find that from long yardage I must read the target and shoot much quicker than from singles. Most importantly, do not move the gun until you read the "flight path" of the bird. On cap's there is not sufficient time to recover from a bad move.

    Most helpful of all would be to have an accomplished shooter observe and comment. Good luck, Marc
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    I am a 20 yard shooter. I was back to the 25 1/2 yard line years ago, but due to medical problems I am usually on the 20 yard line. After years of patterning, shooting lots of 20 yard targets, this is what I have found in regards to shooting 20 yard targets.

    I found for my own particular style of shooting that there were two slight changes I had to make at 20 yards compared to the 16 yard line.

    One, I hold slightly lower at 20 yards, and two, I slow down a little bit. You have more swing at 16 yard, and for each yard you go back in handicap there is less movement.

    I found that my misses at 20 yards were usually due to shooting over my targets when I tried raising my poi.

    Trapshooting is fun, experiment all you want. Each person is different, and this is what I found to be true in my own way of shooting 20 yard targets.
    Steve Balistreri
  12. Kemper

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    Why not just get a coach?
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    HOLD LOWER - SHOOT SLOWER!
  14. Barry C. Roach

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    Do what Barry Kemper says. At your eariest convenience, take a lesson from one of the good teaching pro. They will help you skip a bunch of well intentioned but poor advice.

    In the past I have taken classes from four different pro's. I learned something valuable from each, even though they had differing points of view.

    Good luck. Trapshooting is a great, lifetime sport.
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    So if I'm getting this right the farther back you go the more you may have to raise the comb up?
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    Bad habits come from shooting at the 16yd line. That's because there is more room for error. Birds that you'll break from 16 ( bad hits) you'll miss further back. In my shooting experience I have found I shoot targets the same from 16 to 22yds. Maybe because I shoot a hot load I can get away with it. And, this is with reclaimed shot. Reclaimed becomes suspect beyond the 23yd line imo. Now, for your problem, start using a full choke as it forces you to be on target more. Even at the 16. Use only 1200fps loads or hotter. Pattern board your gun till you have it hitting where YOU want it to. Some people like to be a ton under a target while others like to cover the bird. From here it is just a matter of fundementals. And since there are as many ways for guys to hit a baseball as shoot trap I'm not going to try and write THAT all down. GL and take note of what those standing behind you say. And whatever you do---KEEP YOUR CHEEKBONE ( not just your skin) ON THE COMB. Jim
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