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Trophies!! - You Have To Be Kidding ME!!!

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by kreith, Jul 16, 2007.

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  1. kreith

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    I recently returned from the Indiana State Shoot and have to ask an honest question. Do any of you really like the trophies that are given out at these larger shoots? Don't get me wrong, they had some nice buckles, engraved platters, etc., but the majority of the trophies were porcelain ducks, moose, wolves howling at the what ever, a wolf lamp, and a porcelain 18" tall doll. The list continues, however, due to bandwith limits I will only post the few items.

    I am a younger shooter and my wife would kill me for bringing such items into our home. How much less is a porcelain wolf with plate and lamp versus a larger belt buckle, platinum platter, etc?

    I have continually seen this type of award given and have to say "Give Me A Break". If you want to attract younger shooters, say 28-45, it will not be with such awards. We have no problem spending money on K, P, L guns, but we do not want that stuff on our mantels.

    Ready for your thoughts.
    Corey
     
  2. GoldEx

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    K-80, I feel your pain. A nice picture frame with the shooters photo taken the day of the shoot with his score and event name on a small engraved medallion would be a lot more suitable for display than the ever popular Dancing Panda. The others on this site who clain that trophies don't really matter have likely won so many of them that the novelty has worn off. For those of us on the other end of the spectrum, we do care. With a little bit of effort, there are a number of SHOOTING RELATED TROPHIES available on the market. One only has to look. It's just like the american auto indistry. They kept producing crap for years telling us it was what we wanted instead of listening to what we were saying. Now they are wondering what happened. ATA Clubs.... Listen UP!!!!

    Jeff
     
  3. midalake

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    K-80 I feel your pain. Not only do MANY state shoots need to look at their trophy list but what they are giving out as well. I happen to fall into the catagory of liking "useful" stuff. Over the years I have won some wonderful carved ducks, framed wildlife prints, artist plates, a killer coster-set, leather bags, and so-on. I like stuff that if I do not like it I can sell or re-gift, or even donate to my club for a trophy. HOWEVER the plaque, "regular" trophy with a shooter on top is very disgusting to me.
    Yes you are absoultly right when asking if a wake-up call is needed. One person just posted it does not matter about the trophies at a shoot. Well I was thinking of going to the Indania shoot.....saw the trophy list and decided to stay home.
     
  4. shot410ga

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    I once won a strawberry smelling water hose. No kidding.
     
  5. lumper

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    Dang Corey ... what were you honestly expecting???

    I expect that the top shooter should be whirled off into victory circle and given a big ole bottle of champagne that he can shake up and spray all over the crowd of crappy shooters who couldnt win like I did and while all this is happening the little confetti is droppin from above as the really hot chick is sliding up next to me to give me a big ole congratulatory smooch on the cheek and ... well ... it would put Nascar Victory Lane to shame and at that point who cares what the prize actually was cause is that what your actually shooting for?

    Oh well ... oh yeah ... its kind of rude to publicly insult an entire trap shooting association like this but than you did say you were young and you might not realize what you did.
     
  6. GoldEx

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    Lumper -

    Perhaps you're a distant relative of Joe Friday? The resemblance is striking!

    Jeff
     
  7. lumper

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    Jeff ... do you have a problem with what I said and/or just feel the need to use your keyboard courage to attack somebody?
     
  8. Gargoyle!

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    You all can just keep jumping on the guy but one thing is he's right. When you go to a STATE SHOOT, a STATE EVENT SHOOT or any other BIG SHOOT you should expect some decent trophies. Not junk or stuff that you can go to the store and buy cheaper then what you just put out to get to the shoot. I practice for hours, I have to drive to the trap field, load shells buy reloading goods and so on. I then get to the shoot and see nothing but trinkets in the case for the winners. There was a guy who went to the SOUTHERN GRAND who won his event and the prize was a set of $10.00 cheap wine glasses. He looked at them and said "IS THAT IT"? He just turned and walked away without picking them up. That was posted here not to long ago. What some shoots give out is nothing but insults to the winner. They can buy better trophies but don't want to.
     
  9. GoldEx

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    Both.

    What exactly would you call your little keyboard assault on Corey? Everyone is entitled to their opinion.... As long as it's the same as yours?? Corey voiced his thoughts which happen to be shared by a number of other shooters on this forum. Your opinion is no different than anyone elses and should also be respected by the other readers of this forum when presented in a non demeaning fashion. Your posts are strikingly similar to Friday's. Loaded with sarcasm and intended for the sole purpose of stirring up sh*t. Are you sure you're not the same guy?

    Jeff
     
  10. ajc

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    My $0.02:
    Personally I like buckles the best. Even though I have been fortunate to collect a few, it's still my favorite.

    However, in the interest of those who have a ton of buckles already, or those whose's wifes will never let us hang the "Dogs Playing Poker" anywhere but the Man Cave, I have a suggestion.

    Clubs could offer the event winner a choice. Perhaps, even though he's got a pile of buckles, this particular buckle strikes his fancy. Or, maybe he's got the perfect spot for that shotshell hull mantle clock. Whatever.

    Over time a club, if they are paying attention, could quickly figure out what prizes are being scooped up first. And what's being left as the last thing picked.

    Further, shooters who win ought to be gracious enough to compliment club management for the nice award, if that's the case. Positive reinforcement goes a long way (kinda like how "dead a pair" sounds).
     
  11. BDodd

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    The current attitude in trophies has led me to prefer money shoots AND they are the safest plan for the clubs as well. Were I back in the chair(s) that made such decisions, I'd have some buckles or nice awards for the key wins but the rest would be "$X from each entry into a pot divided Y ways, hi-gun" and the potential risk of losing money would disappear. I realize this is not too likely for state and larger shoots but it still would be a preferance for me....Bob Dodd
     
  12. lumper

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    What do any of us really shoot for? Do we shoot for trophies? Do we shoot for money? Do we shoot just to know we were the best at the shoot or that we were better then some but not quite as good as another ... what do we honestly shoot for?

    Trophies and trinkets are nice but is that what we honestly shoot for?
     
  13. laura!

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    I think Corey has a valid point about attracting younger shooters, particularly kids. A club local to me has solved the issue by giving out an inexpensive "olympic medal" looking award that says what event you won, where & when, and also something else like a knife, print, figurine or wine glasses. The knives are very popular. I like the picture idea or a pin. Shotgun shells, reloading componants or a couple free rounds of trap would be great too. When I shoot well, my score is my trophy, whether i actually "won" or not, so, no, this isn't a whining session. But maybe changing the trophies would help increase attendence, which I think everyone has to agree is down.
     
  14. Trap2

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    There are ways for a club to award nice looking buckles, with display bases, at a very reasonable price. Not all buckles have to be Montana Silver, Tilden, Champion, etc. While all these folks make a beautiful buckle, they are also expensive due to the cost of materials used. One great alternative is shown on the website www.buckleart.com. These are absolutely beautiful trophies, and the cost is about 1/3rd the cost of a standard silver buckle package. Our club has used them and the shooters really seem to like, and appreciate, the change in the same old package. I currently have several clubs that are using these trophies, and all have thanked me for helping provide a quality trophy package for their shoots at a cost that won't break the bank. We offer any club that is interested in our trophies a free sample buckle just by contacting me. Purchasing trophies does not need to be a hard, tedious job as mentioned above. All it takes is for the members of the trophy committee to do their job a little better. If they do a some research, shop the net a bit, they can come up with some very nice trophy packages any shooter would be happy to win, and display, at a cost that will make the clubs treasurer happy as well.... Just my experience......Dan Thome (Trap2)
     
  15. grnberetcj

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    Hey Jimmy,

    You've been around this game long enough to know that the person(s) that continually complain are the one(s) that continually never volunteer and/or help.

    Chin Music Specialists.

    Curt - Delaware
     
  16. midalake

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    I agree with Jerry. Try to get into some of the dictatorships where these self appointed grand poo-bahs run the show. If every state would return 25 stinkin cents from their state shooting fees over the year we would not be having this conversation........We are not putting the effort back to ourselves and the sport. We have the property, we have the machines we have the voice callers, we have $20 prizes........WTF............WAKE-UP..................

    GS
     
  17. kreith

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    As an "older" lady shooter (but not to old mind you) I agree, it would be nice to see better trophies at larger shoots. I dont think this thread is an insult to the entire trap association but possibly a wake up call. I beleive we would all like to see this sport infused with younger blood so it can continue to grow in popularity. Unfortunate or not - the younger generation wants something they can touch for thier time and money, and certainly not a lamp with a small engraved emblem hanging crooked around an animals neck. Now that I am off my soap box - I should mention, the porcelain doll that was a "Lady Shooter" award at the Indiana State Shoot would have looked very nice next to the crocheted doll toilet paper holder in MY grandmothers house.
    Kitty K.
     
  18. Big Heap

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    This issue should be addressed by the ATA and the PITA. If a catalog of trophies was available to the people who choose trophies for any event, big or small, the quality-to-cost issue could be resolved. If the catalog covered a range of items and costs, regional tastes and budgets could be satisfied.

    A "Central Trophy Committee" should be established by the ATA to publish this catalog and keep it fresh and updated. Set some standards!
     
  19. Matthew Moser

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    I came in second on sat. at the IN state shoot in the sub-junior cat. They gave me a cowboy mirror. COME ON!!!! I had to shoot a 193 for something I am not going to use. I think that the only good trophies are the leather bags.
     
  20. lumper

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    Well if you dont want the cowboy mirror can I have it? I like cowboy mirrors ... ;-)
     
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