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  1. W.P.T.

    W.P.T. TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    I recieved this in an E Mail from a good friend ... Just wanted to give a heads up ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

    Subject: FW: Warning: Destruction Ahead

    Nikita K. said over 50 years ago, the American people will be fed small
    doses of Socialism until one day they will wake up buried in Communism.
    Well, here we go, the final nail.

    -----Original Message-----

    The Obama presidency: Here comes socialism By Dick Morris
    Posted: 01/20/09 06:12 PM [ET]

    2009-2010 will rank with 1913-14, 1933-36, 1964-65 and 1981-82 as years
    that will permanently change our government, politics and lives. Just as
    the stars were aligned for Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson and Reagan, they
    are aligned for Obama. Simply put, we enter his administration as
    free-enterprise, market-dominated, laissez-faire America. We will
    shortly become like Germany, France, the United Kingdom, or Sweden - a
    socialist democracy in which the government dominates the economy,
    determines private-sector priorities and offers a vastly expanded range
    of services to many more people at much higher taxes.

    Obama will accomplish his agenda of "reform" under the rubric of
    Using the electoral mandate bestowed on a Democratic Congress by
    restless voters and the economic power given his administration by
    terrified Americans, he will change our country fundamentally in the
    name of lifting the depression. His stimulus packages won't do much to
    shorten the downturn - although they will make it less painful - but
    they will do a great deal to change our nation.

    In implementing his agenda, Barack Obama will emulate the example of
    Franklin D. Roosevelt. (Not the liberal mythology of the New Deal, but
    the actuality of what it accomplished.) When FDR took office, he was
    enormously successful in averting a total collapse of the banking system
    and the economy. But his New Deal measures only succeeded in lowering
    the unemployment rate from 23 percent in 1933, when he took office, to
    13 percent in the summer of 1937. It never went lower. And his policies
    of over-regulation generated such business uncertainty that they
    triggered a second-term recession. Unemployment in 1938 rose to 17
    percent and, in 1940, on the verge of the war-driven recovery, stood at
    15 percent. (These data and the real story of Hoover's and Roosevelt's
    missteps, uncolored by ideology, are available in The Forgotten Man by
    Amity Shlaes, copyright 2007.)

    But in the name of a largely unsuccessful effort to end the Depression,
    Roosevelt passed crucial and permanent reforms that have dominated our
    lives ever since, including Social Security, the creation of the
    Securities and Exchange Commission, unionization under the Wagner Act,
    the federal minimum wage and a host of other fundamental changes.

    Obama's record will be similar, although less wise and more destructive.
    He will begin by passing every program for which liberals have lusted
    for decades, from alternative-energy sources to school renovations,
    infrastructure repairs and technology enhancements. These are all good
    programs, but they normally would be stretched out for years. But freed
    of any constraint on the deficit - indeed, empowered by a mandate to
    raise it as high as possible - Obama will do them all rather quickly.

    But it is not his spending that will transform our political system, it
    is his tax and welfare policies. In the name of short-term stimulus, he
    will give every American family (who makes less than $200,000) a welfare
    check of $1,000 euphemistically called a refundable tax credit. And he
    will so sharply cut taxes on the middle class and the poor that the
    number of Americans who pay no federal income tax will rise from the
    current one-third of all households to more than half. In the process,
    he will create a permanent electoral majority that does not pay taxes,
    but counts on ever-expanding welfare checks from the government. The
    dependency on the dole, formerly limited in pre-Clinton days to 14
    million women and children on Aid to Families with Dependent Children,
    will now grow to a clear majority of the American population.

    Will he raise taxes? Why should he? With a congressional mandate to run
    the deficit up as high as need be, there is no reason to raise taxes now
    and risk aggravating the depression. Instead, Obama will follow the
    opposite of the Reagan strategy. Reagan cut taxes and increased the
    deficit so that liberals could not increase spending. Obama will raise
    spending and increase the deficit so that conservatives cannot cut
    taxes. And, when the economy is restored, he will raise taxes with
    impunity, since the only people who will have to pay them would be rich

    In the name of stabilizing the banking system, Obama will nationalize
    Using Troubled Asset Relief Program funds to write generous checks to
    needy financial institutions, his administration will demand preferred
    stock in exchange. Preferred stock gets dividends before common
    stockholders do. With the massive debt these companies will owe to the
    government, they will only be able to afford dividends for preferred
    stockholders - the government, not private investors. So who will buy
    common stock? And the government will demand that its bills be paid
    before any profits that might materialize are reinvested in the
    financial institution, so how will the value of the stocks ever grow?
    Devoid of private investors, these institutions will fall ever more
    under government control.

    Obama will begin the process by limiting executive compensation. Then he
    will urge restructuring and lowering of home mortgages in danger of
    default (as the feds have already done with Citibank).

    Then will come guidance on the loans to make and government instructions
    on the types of enterprises to favor. God grant that some Blagojevich
    type is not in charge of the program, using his power to line his
    pockets. The United States will find itself with an economic system
    comparable to that of Japan, where the all-powerful bureaucracy at MITI
    (Ministry of International Trade and Industry) manages the economy,
    often making mistakes like giving mainframe computers priority over the
    development of laptops.

    But it is the healthcare system that will experience the most dramatic
    and traumatic of changes. The current debate between erecting a
    Medicare-like governmental single payer or channeling coverage through
    private insurance misses the essential point. Without a lot more
    doctors, nurses, clinics, equipment and hospital beds, health resources
    will be strained to the breaking point. The people and equipment that
    now serve 250 million Americans and largely neglect all but the
    emergency needs of the other 50 million will now have to serve everyone.
    And, as government imposes ever more Draconian price controls and income
    limits on doctors, the supply of practitioners and equipment will
    decline as the demand escalates. Price increases will be out of the
    question, so the government will impose healthcare rationing, denying
    the older and sicker among us the care they need and even barring them
    from paying for it themselves. (Rationing based on income and price will
    be seen as immoral.)

    And Obama will move to change permanently the partisan balance in
    He will move quickly to legalize all those who have been in America for
    five years, albeit illegally, and to smooth their paths to citizenship
    and voting. He will weaken border controls in an attempt to hike the
    Latino vote as high as he can in order to make red states like Texas
    into blue states like California. By the time he is finished, Latinos
    and African-Americans will cast a combined 30 percent of the vote. If
    they go by top-heavy margins for the Democrats, as they did in 2008, it
    will assure Democratic domination (until they move up the economic
    ladder and become good Republicans).

    And he will enact the check-off card system for determining labor union
    representation, repealing the secret ballot in union elections. The
    result will be to raise the proportion of the labor force in unions up
    to the high teens from the current level of about 12 percent.

    Finally, he will use the expansive powers of the Federal Communications
    Commission to impose "local" control and ownership of radio stations and
    to impose the "fairness doctrine" on talk radio. The effect will be to
    drive talk radio to the Internet, fundamentally change its economics,
    and retard its growth for years hence.

    But none of these changes will cure the depression. It will end when the
    private sector works through the high debt levels that triggered the
    collapse in the first place. And, then, the large stimulus package
    deficits will likely lead to rapid inflation, probably necessitating a
    second recession to cure it.

    So Obama's name will be mud by 2012 and probably by 2010 as well. And
    the Republican Party will make big gains and regain much of its lost

    But it will be too late to reverse the socialism of much of the economy,
    the demographic change in the electorate, the rationing of healthcare by
    the government, the surge of unionization and the crippling of talk

    Morris, a former adviser to Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and President Bill
    Clinton, is the author of Outrage. To get all of Dick Morris's and
    Eileen McGann's columns for free by email, go to www.dickmorris.com. To
    order a signed copy of their new best-selling book, Fleeced, go to
  2. Bocephas

    Bocephas Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    WPT,I think he also said the USA will be taken without firing a shot.

  3. mx8dave

    mx8dave Member

    Sep 13, 2006
    I believe he said ,,,,"No one will defeat America ,,America will defeat herself",,,,,wise man ,,,D. Lang
  4. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
  5. crusha

    crusha TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
  6. WGB

    WGB Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    The nuts are out early. But....... even paranoids have enemies.

    Political writers from both the right and left find an audience and get paid to stroke it. You're being stroked, just like the left gets stroked by their own loonies.

    If you don't have a brain of your own listen to someone else, seems to be the motto these days.
  7. W.P.T.

    W.P.T. TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    I recall him saying America will be taken without firing a shot and that America will defeat itself also ... I guess he wasn't quite as dumb as he looked ... Trappy is not interested in reading anything such as this and none of us ever thought it would come to pass, yet it sure don't look good based on what has happened lately and the last election ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
  8. bill1949

    bill1949 Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
  9. W.P.T.

    W.P.T. TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    OMT ...
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