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Trap shooting from Australia- Couple of pics

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Aussie Dan, Dec 10, 2011.

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  1. Aussie Dan

    Aussie Dan Member

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    Hi Ladies and Gents,

    this is my first post after reading this forum for quite some time. I have a few friends that have ventured over to the USA to shoot the Grand american, and i have always marvelled at the US shooters abilities to shoot many consecutive targets in singles.

    Our trap shooting is a little different (for those that dont know DTL or down the line shooting- like the UK, is the most popular here) as the angles are a little wider and the targets a little quicker but all up very similar in many other ways.

    I am thinking of ways to try and bring many of the good shooting habits of ATA shooting into our down the line shooting, and have already started my modifying my Perazzi MX5 to have a high rib (using timber for now but have ordered a bridgeshoot rib extension) Just wondering a few things-

    How Many Aussies are members on here?

    What is the USA record for most consecutive targets (or break) from the 16 yard line in singles and doubles? Our major events are double barrel, where you are allowed 2 shots at the one target, and the record is 1177 straight.

    In an ATA shoot off, do you miss and drop out immediately or at the end of the bracket of 25 targets? We miss and walk off the lanes immediately.

    Does any ATA shooters attend shoots such as the World DTL Championships? I have attended one once and cant remember seeing anyone from the USA there?

    Cheers,
    Dan
     
  2. warren

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    In a shoot off here we finnish the round of 25 and whomever gets the best score wins or if it's a tie they continue until one wins, shooting a round of 25 each time. Good luck in your endevor.

    warren
     
  3. grntitan

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    I know of at least one other from Austrailia on here. He goes by "Release Trigger" on here and his real name is Gary Kennerson. He is from Sydney. I met him and his mates in person this year(August) at the ATA's Grand American which is our big Championship Shoot. He is one hell of a nice guy and likewise are his friends he travels with.
     
  4. Mr.M

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    Dan,

    I know I've supplied gunstock blanks to at least two Australians and IAB spares to another. Trapshooters.com seems to be pretty popular among our brothers from other Mothers down under.

    Regards and Welcome,

    Mike Mann
    WHITE CREEK GUNSTOCK BLANKS LLC Your Myrtlewood Source - and
    Maple, English and Royal Walnut and Koa
     
  5. skeeter1956

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    g'day mate, there are 3 on here from townsville queensland , don't forget we are hosting the state trap titles in 2012, not sure of the dates [ i better find out cause i am the groundsman] cheers des
     
  6. Smiley

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    Hi Aussie Dan I'm from Aus also belong to Brisbane gun club
    Paul
     
  7. Aussie Dan

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    Hi guys, Thanks for the replies!

    @country blues- thanks for that, wow thats a hell of a run! Double our bests and we get 2 shots at the one target!

    @GRNtitan- I have actually met Gary Kennerson and his wife Karen a couple of times. your right they are real nice people and have been going to the grand for years. I know a couple of his friends better, John Crompton, and Bob Rose, who have also been across several times. Another guy at my club, (Majura Park Canberra ACT) Mat Patmore went this year too. bought a DB81 combo while he was there.

    @whitecreekgunstocks- Thanks man, i'll check out your page. Im a wood worker too, Cabinetmaker by trade, specialize in timber free standing furniture.

    @des- Cheers mate, went fishing in Townsville a couple of months ago, good to hear a few shotty shooters about up there too. Stayed at the Casino, had a ball.

    @ Paul- hi mate, I have shot in Brisbane once, actually won the A Grade Olympic trap championship at the nationals in 2000.

    Thanks for the replies everyone, keep them coming!
     
  8. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    Welcome aboard. Nice to hear from you people from the other side of the world. Bulge.
     
  9. 320090T

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    Don't forget Aussie Ray. I don't think he posts here but he "comes across" every year, used to hang with Jack and Kay Hunter.
     
  10. shot410ga

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    What's it cost to shoot down under (shells, gun club fees)? Is it a hassle to own a trap gun? Just wondering. I was there on R&R during the Vietnam war.
     
  11. grunt

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    TTT for the boys down under..
     
  12. skeeter1956

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    well fees are different as with all clubs, the acta[ like ata] costs $130 yearly and club fees are on top of that , our club townsville is another $40. cartridges are anywhere from $65 a flat upwards, practice is $7 per 25 targets. cheers des
     
  13. Aussie Dan

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    good question shot410ga- It will be interesting to compare with you guys. All prices i quote below is in Aussie Dollars

    Shells- We can buy a range of different shells here, from Europe (RC, Mirage, Rio) From the USA (Winchester, Federal, Remington) and also some Aussie and New Zealand made shells (Such as our own Winchester, Falcon, and Champion)

    To compare apples to apples, the cost of the USA made Winchester Xtralite 1oz 7.5- $145 per 500, USA made Winchester Light handicap 1oz are around $170 per 500, i think the cheaper shells are from china at about $120 and you can pay over $200 per 500 for some versions of our Aussie made winchesters.

    Guns- we have all the same brands as you guys but dont really have combos, with singles and doubles barrels. We have the majority our events as double barrel, or point score (3 points for hitting a single target with the first shot, or 2 points if you hit it with your second), even our handicap is shot with 2 shots at a single target, so all guns are under and over. When we have a single barrel event, no one uses a single barrel, just the bottom barrel of the under and over. I cannot remember the last time i saw someone using an automatic to shoot trap even though it is allowable in the rules.

    Prices- a new MX2005 Perazzi will cost you $14,300, MX8 is $11,500, or SCO is $30,500. Beretta DT10 Trident is $9,350, or the 682 Gold E etra trap (high rib) is $5,750, or a new Browning Ultra XTR Trap Midas Choke 12 Gauge $4795.00.

    every shooter must have a license, in which you must prove to the Police and firarms registry a genuine reason for owning a firearm. Personal protection IS NOT a genuine reason to own a firearm here, but trap shooting is. You cannot get a firearm license if you have any criminal record, including Domestic battery or assault charges. All firarms must be registered at the firearms registry to your license. If you get a shooters license and wish to buy your first firearm there is a 30 day cooling off period before you can pick it up, but if you have already firearms it is reduced to 14 days.

    Automatic rimfire, shotguns and rifles are banned except for primary production purposes, or target shooting, in which case you have to get a special category added to your license and even have a stronger approved gun safe to store them in. Its quite difficult to get an auto. They are also banned for recreatonal hunting purposes.

    Shoots- club shoots usually cost $30 to per 50 target event to enter. Usually smaller clubs have 20 or so shooters per shoot, and even the event will only be 25 or 30 targets. you dont usually win much for that, perhaps a $30 prize if your lucky, depends on the event really. Your normal day club shoot is around 3 events totalling 100 targets, and the Nominations cost you $60 and you would use around 150 rounds of ammo unless you get in a shoot off, so a day you will get some change out of $100 but not much.

    A big prize shoot may have $15,000 total in prizes divided into say 5 or 6 events over 2 days. each event has an overall winner, then AA, A, B and C grade as well as veterans, juniors, ladies categories. a big prize shoot or the State or National Titles usually costs $1 per target to enter plus a cash sweep purse per event.

    Example, the National Titles have around 6 x 50 target events over 4-5 days, and usually costs about $300-350 to enter. If you win your grade, you will get a sash, probably around 500 rounds of shells and maybe $500. Overall winners might get a firearm, (sometimes a $2500 trap gun or something) 500 rounds and maybe $1000 cash, as well as a sash and a Gold championship badge. The National titles will get around 650 competitors attending.

    We have no AAA grade, and AA grade shooters must record 97% or better every 200 targets, remembering we get 2 shots at every target here not one like you guys.

    how does the $$$ compare to you guys? I dont expect an elaborate post like mine as a reply but some idea of if its expensive etc?
     
  14. Ross

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    Aussie Dan: WELCOME to T.S. this is a marvelous site for guys like me, I have been shooting since the mid 1960s still learn new & better things here. Ammo here varies quite a bit depending on brand "example" our Winchester--Remington--Federal major brands cost about $140.00 to $150.00 per 500 in U.S. dollars they usually have a special for the Grand American then they are a dollar or so per box (25) cheaper, the promotional stuff & import runs around $100.00 to $110.00 per 500. We are allowed to shoot re-loads most of the time so that brings the cost down a little, but if you figure your time in the equation you may not save much also the good hulls can be sold for 2 or 3 cents apiece to those of us that do re-load so that brings the price down a little more. Shoot well and often--my new friend-- "mate" Ross Puls
     
  15. greta500

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    i was very interested reading your posts about trapshooting in Australia. My friend, who is originally
    From Wales UK is now living in Australia and is an excellent trapshooter. As a matter of fact
    She shot on the Welsh team or many years before moving to Australia

    She has been living in Sydney, also Brisbane. Her name is LeAnn Wedlake, her e-Mai

    Address is lwedlake@big pond.com.

    I know she would like to hear from Australian shooters
     
  16. Barry C. Roach

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    What brand of targets do you use in Australia? What launching machines are the most popular?
     
  17. Derek-C

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    Another Australian .

    Newcastle but must admit I shoot skeet rather that trap.

    Derek
     
  18. Barry C. Roach

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    Skeet's form of trapshooting, so you're good.
     
  19. 682 Adam

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    G'day Dan

    Trap shooter from Tassie here mate.

    Cheers
    Adam

    (Barry, Mostly Canterbury traps here that ive seen, not sure about the targets but i think most are from "Clay Targets Australia")
     
  20. timb99

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    Howsit Dan,

    Welcome to trapshooters.com

    I'm an American living in that <i>other</i> down under, South Africa. We're practically neighbors.

    They shoot DTL over here too, though I haven't tried it.

    I think they had the World DTL Championships here last year.
     
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