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Trap Machine Help Needed (FIXED)

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by moose!!!, Jan 31, 2012.

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  1. moose!!!

    moose!!! Member

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    A few of us at the club, are trying to rebuild a “Universal” brand, Trap Machine. Does anyone have an owners manual, or Know what we may be doing wrong?

    It is a 300 or so bird unit and, when it rotates to drop a fresh bird it drops at an angle and, the bird above it that is being held by the o-ring feature, with the spring tension on it breaks. We have tried changing the timing by moving the chain several cogs but, it seems like nothing helps it still drops at an angle.

    Any Ideas or suggestions on a potential fix would be greatly appreciated Thanks
     
  2. moose!!!

    moose!!! Member

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    A few of us at the club, are trying to rebuild a “Universal” brand, Trap Machine. Does anyone have an owners manual, or Know what we may be doing wrong?

    It is a 300 or so bird unit and, when it rotates to drop a fresh bird it drops at an angle and, the bird above it that is being held by the o-ring feature, with the spring tension on it breaks. We have tried changing the timing by moving the chain several cogs but, it seems like nothing helps it still drops at an angle.

    Any Ideas or suggestions on a potential fix would be greatly appreciated Thanks
     
  3. Auctioneer

    Auctioneer Well-Known Member

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    Google the maker and model and I'm sure you will find what you need. Use the word manual also. Let us know how you do on the search.
     
  4. moose!!!

    moose!!! Member

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    Auctioneer I tried Google but the “Universal” Brand machine is not made anymore There was nothing on the web about it. Looked at some drawings of other trap machines but they are really different. Guess we will keep trying stuff till something works or we go somewhere and see one in operation.
     
  5. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

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    Where are you and thye macine located?

    Gary Bryant
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  6. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

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    Could this possibly be a DO ALL UNIVERSAL TRAP MACHINE? Do you have a model#
    so I can research it for you

    It might help if you post a few pictures of the trap machine

    Gary Bryant
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  7. Trussman2

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    The Universal traps were made in England, had a fella come around selling them in the early 90s. That trap is the most gentle target handling machine we ever had, surprised that you have breakage.

    The magazine should be timed such that the target to be dropped just tips in the hole, and the column of targets coming behind that just nudges that 1st target enough to push it into the hole. Hope this helps.....
     
  8. moose!!!

    moose!!! Member

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    Trussman2 & Dr Longshot
    Thanks for trying to help. We got it working after days of trial and error You are correct they were made in England and, you are also correct they usually do not break. These machines had been out of service stored outside for years under a canvas long enough they had a lot of gunk and dirt on them and a couple of the motors needed some attention. We messed with timing for hundreds of birds moving the chains 1 to several cogs back and forth till we had just about gave up. Then one of the old, old timers stopped by and told us. We always had troubles when the birds got low 2 or 3 per stack Guess how many we had been testing with, 2 or 3 per stack we filled up the stacks and it never missed another bird. Boy do they fly nice and consistent. We threw them out of a garage door and 20 birds straight were 3 inches from the top of the door. now that we are self taught experts, we know now the machines inside and out I am not sure they will ever need us to work on then again. They are built like a tank and very simple.

    A thanks again, and if anyone has problems with Universal machines don’t bother looking on the Internet. Just clean it off fill it up with birds and start throwing them.
     
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