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Trap house design question

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Klay_Buster, Sep 24, 2011.

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  1. Klay_Buster

    Klay_Buster TS Member

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    Trying to find the allowable front roof overhang specification.
    Any help out their ?
     
  2. quartering

    quartering Active Member

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    that's a good question. i don't think it would matter on the high house. but you know that any overhang on the low house is gonna' get shot.
     
  3. Klay_Buster

    Klay_Buster TS Member

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    Trap house please, Not Skeet houses.
    This is a Trap forum. Thanks.
     
  4. The Rock

    The Rock Active Member

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    The roof height is determined some what but the correct positioning height of the trap machine throwing arm platform. No matter it always seams that the roof is never high enough to allow easy loading.

    1. Length not less than 7 feet, 6 inches, nor more than 9 feet, 6 inches.

    2. Width not less than 7 feet, 6 inches, nor more than 9 feet, 6 inches.

    3. Height not less than 2 feet, 2 inches, nor more than 3 feet, 0 inches, the height to be measured from the plane of the number 3 shooting position.

    It is recommended that the throwing surface (throwing arm or plate) of the trap machine be on the same level as that of Post 3 and the target height setting pad.

    Basically as tall as allowed for easy of loading. Ans as low as possible from the shooting stand point.

    I know of no limits on the overhang as long as the house does not exceed 9'6" x 9'6".

    Rock

    Jim
     
  5. mag410

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    Overhang as much as you like as long as the overall length does not exceed 9' 6"

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    B. TRAPHOUSES



    Traphouses
    must adequately protect the trap loaders and shall not be higher than
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    after September 1, 2003 shall conform to the following specifications:


    1.
    Length not less than 7 feet, 6 inches, nor more than 9 feet, 6 inches.



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    Width not less than 7 feet, 6 inches, nor more than 9 feet, 6 inches.


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  6. Setterman

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    The "overhang" is the part of the roof that projects beyond the walls. I'm not sure why you are considering an overhang? Would your overhang be on all 4 sides? I would assume since the largest house can be 9'-6" x 9'-6", a 1' overhang would force you to keep the house at 8'-6" x 8'-6". Any larger than that would make the house look large and the angle birds would appear to exit at an unatural angle, or atleast a "deceiving" angle.
     
  7. ric3677

    ric3677 Well-Known Member

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    We have about 4 in on all of our traps. Since we have some snow here in MT, it makes it nice for keeping the ice off the locks. Shouldn't need to lock trap houses, but we do.

    Rick in MT
     
  8. skeezix

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    Does point 'b' come into play here? I believe Point 'b' is supposed to be 1'-6" or 2'-6" from the front of the house (either, or it's not a range.)

    to clarify what I'm thinking - your Point 'b' is already established assuming you've poured your trap fans - i.e. it's 16 yd's from the front edge of your fan to point 'b'. IF your house is situated such that point 'b' would be 1'-6" from the front of the house, then I'd think you could have a 12" overhang making point 'b' 2'-6" off of the front edge of the roof line. If your point 'b' is already 2'-6" behind the front of the house, I'd think an overhang may be an issue. (also presuming you meet the overall dimensions noted above)

    john
     
  9. Klay_Buster

    Klay_Buster TS Member

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    Thanks to everyone who responded. All with correct information.
    My concern is that our building guy wants 4 inches of overhang on the top front
    of the trap house. If one measures from point B to the front of the front wall, and it's 1'6". Then with 4" overhang the point B to the front edge of the roof becomes 1'10". Question: Is this in violation of the ATA rules for trap house design. I notine one poster had 4" overhang to avoid snow and ice.
    Ours would be for the same reason. The house is within the overall dimentions with the added 4" overhang. Looking for some expet help.
     
  10. 870

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    I think you guys are overanalyzing it. Don't worry about the overhang when considering Point B, use the wall of the house (just make sure targets clear the overhang). And, yes, the book does say 1'6" OR 2'6", but I think you have to understand that is a range, machine placement is not an exact science.
     
  11. Mr.M

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    David,

    I'm excited that you're asking this question and anticipate that there may be a reason to rejoice somewhere in the future. Fill me in when I see you at Sunnyvale this weekend.

    Regards, Mike Mann
     
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