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Trap guns= "Assult weapons" must read

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by ark1stclass, Jan 11, 2013.

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  1. ark1stclass

    ark1stclass TS Member

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    According to the way I read this, a ported barrel is going to be illegal, also a collapsable stock by broad definition.

    http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S1422-2013
     
  2. timberfaller

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    Yep! Voting STUPID has consequences!
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

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    So much for adjustable LOP buttplates and porting or ported choke tubes.
     
  4. Rick Barker

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    Yep turn in your assault rifles and magazines.


    Made clickable link above to the bill

    Does not look like "grandfathering is allowed"

    Notice the various catch all wording and the Superintendent of Police can later add weapons to the ban including shotguns, that he determines to be non sporting.

    All it will take is some nut with some slugs or buckshot and a pump or semi auto shotgun and those guns will be determined to be non sporting.
     
  5. Shooting Sailor

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    So, in New York, my Cynergy, my .338WM, and my ported BLR .308 will all be classed as assault weapons? These idiots have to pull their heads out of their asses! I'm glad I don't live in New York. Now you guys know how we felt north of the 49th, when the Liberal government went after us. They can baffle most people with bullshit, but you have to have credible spokespeople putting out the truth, always including the financial facts of these ill-founded projects. Years down the road, when you are proven correct, the pendulum will swing back, and MAYBE you can get this crap repealed, if you can't derail it before passage.
     
  6. rexxon631g

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    It just baffles me how they forget that this fellow in New York killed his grandmother with a hammer. Well if they had executed him for that murder then I am almost positive he could not have killed anyone else and maybe just maybe another would be killer would have been detered from killing knowing the death penlty was going to be used.

    But thanks to the ACLU and other liberal think groups that want to rehabilitate killers. these are the results you get BUT I forget its the guns fault.

    These mass shootings started about the time the states closed down the mental health institutions because the ACLU and other liberal think group say it is not fair to separate people from society, and of course the doctors and drug makers could not be to blame with all the " wonder pills" they push on families of these individuals who need real help and a real place to get that help.

    I wonder what is bigger on these men who think this way, their brains or their stones?????????????????????
     
  7. Brian in Oregon

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    Remember, you have to have a crisis to pass panic legislation and make people afraid enough to give up their rights for some perceived safety.

    The socialist agenda has been to make crime worse by ensuring our court system fails the victim and coddles the criminal. And make society more dangerous by putting criminals back on the street.

    Having accomplished that, they can then toss logic aside and pass whatever they want based on emotionalism, exaggeration, denigration and falsehood.
     
  8. Don Steele

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    Like Brian Said.
    Nothing needs to be added. Thank You.
     
  9. HSLDS

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    Be careful, be very, very careful...

    First, ark1stclass thanks for posting that.

    If you listen to these people in their audio and video bites you ASSUME they know nothing about firearms - they think an AR-15 is full auto, that a 20 round mag turns a person into a deranged killer while a 10 rounder leaves you gentle and normal. That the physical attributes of a tool somehow change the user.

    Think again.

    Read the wording of this legislation - they know EXACTLY what they are doing and what they are after. Do not for one second think that the fact that the CA law for 'assault weapons' ends up banning nearly 50% of all rifles and 70% of all handguns proves how ill-informed these people are.

    It shows just how smart they are.

    They are trying to perpetrate a fraud on all of us, and while they have us busy calling them fools for not knowing what an 'assault weapon' is they are aiming to ban close to two thirds of all firearms.

    Be careful, be very, very careful...
     
  10. cubancigar2000

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    Not long ago a tour bus crashed and killed 9 people, will they ban tour buses
     
  11. daddiooo

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    cubancigar2000,

    The bus driver had a gun.......esentially 9 people were killed by the presence of the gun.

    Democratic logic.
     
  12. Don Steele

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    When I bought my M4...it was purchased as a Defensive weapon. I have no intention of assaulting anyone. Nobody I know purchased their AR, FN,AK, or whatever to assault anyone or anything. To allow the media to describe these firearms as assault weapons is simply incorrect. They are Defense Weapons. The fact that this critical point is only now being made, and only in little-noticed corners of the world-wide web is the best illustration of how badly we have been totally outdone by the left. We have allowed THEM to control the conversation and in doing so,they keep us on the ropes...always trying to defend ourselves.
    In the 1990's when Clinton's so-called "Assault rifle ban" was being argued...we should have stepped up then to correct the choice of verbage. Now I fear it's too late. They are going to decide what an "assault weapon" is, what features,physical appearance,etc. to include in their legislation and we will be forever trying to defend to the non-shooting, "low-information" VOTING public why we feel that we "Need" these terrible weapons.
     
  13. Joe Potosky

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    Gun bans is about FEELINGS not facts...
     
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    Too many thoghtful people think the Congressmen and Staff writing the legislation are stupid and thoughtless.

    They are not. They are simply focused on the long term goal of dismantling the 2nd Amendment and reducing firearms in the hands of private citizens until none remain

    The motives range from the primary notion that the People can not be trusted to align with "Right Thinking and world view".

    "They" also have a survival instinct that they learned from elections following major gun grabs and were careful to not publically speak on the 'Ban" except for a few vocal Senators like Feinstein - who could run as a Transvestite child molester in CA and still get elected.

    Their enemy is Time and the NRA and the Tea Party type orgs that can mobilize LOUD grass root groups - but that only works because enough people are not complacent and fail to write their congressman or excoriate Wal Mart, etc.

    Pleas do your part and keep the pressure on.
     
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    It is very simple look at the news footage from Greece. They are using rocks think if they had guns. The people in Washington see the what would happen when are economy collapses. Tom
     
  16. rexxon631g

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    Hmmmmm That last post really made me think about another aspect that had not occured to me. TWCPDC thanks I think!!! You gave me another set of glasses to look at this through.
     
  17. Shooting Coach

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    Forget the rhetoric.

    Gun Control is not about guns, it is about CONTROL!
     
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    Brian in Oregon, that is one of the most well written posts on this site, along with the correlation to the faied Greek economy compared to ours, which is well on its way.
     
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    Just think, a Lujtic Spacegun (pistol grip) and a BT-100 with a thumbhole stock may also come under the proposed changes from Feinstein, not to be confused with Einstein. These guns are most sought after in the world that progressives live in. By the way, I think they will make an adjustable handle hammer illegal. BT100dc
     
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    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

    - Benjamin Frankin
     
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