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Transferring a long gun to a California Resident

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by jfesi, Dec 7, 2011.

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  1. jfesi

    jfesi Member

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    I have been searching for a while and can't find the answer to this transfer question. Could someone please tell me how to legally accomplish an out of state transfer to a California resident? I know that the gun will need to get shipped to a California FFL. My question is if the California FFLs will accept a long gun from me directly or do I have to ship from a local FFL to the CA FFL?
    I have read in some places about being on a CA friendly transfer list for out of state FFLs that are going to transfer to a CA FFL. Is this correct?

    Thanks for all of your help in this matter. I am just trying to figure out some costs.

    Thanks,

    Joe
     
  2. bonzai272

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    Im in CA. My buddy just bought an out of state shotgun from this website. The seller did not have an FFL himself and therefore had to have his local FFL ship it to the FFL here in CA. Now whether this is a CA law or just the personal policy of the CA FFL, I cannot confirm.
     
  3. Calkidd

    Calkidd Well-Known Member

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    You will find that most Ca FFL's will want to have the gun sent to them from another FFL. As far a that being the law, don't know.
     
  4. Mike-n-CA

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    I live in CA and have purchased 4 shotguns from out of state, all from private parties. The two FFL's that handled the purchases did not require the sellers to have an FFL send the guns, they both had the individual sellers send the guns to them after getting some information from them either by phone or fax.
    Mike
     
  5. grunt

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    Your FFL holder will have to collect sales tax on the purchase. Out of staters have to make sure that the FFL holder is California state approved and they have to have the State papers with their records. Its just a scam to collect tax money. He will also need to have a bill of sale .
     
  6. ysr_racer

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    From the CA DOJ Website

    http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/cflcfaqs.php#2

    Q: I am not an FFL but I want to ship a firearm to a California FFL. Do I have to obtain a Firearms Shipment Approval number before shipping a firearm to California?

    A: No. The requirement to obtain a Firearms Shipment Approval number only applies to holders of valid FFLs
     
  7. DB Bill

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    grunt --- they're not calling it a "sale tax" but rather a "use fee". They've been kicking the idea around for almost 10 years and finally got around to it.
     
  8. warpspeed

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    The receiving FFL will (should) only collect tax if it comes from a FFL.

    Check out calguns.net. Good info there.
     
  9. ysr_racer

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    Where do you live? I have a few I deal with in Orange County.
     
  10. cf4952

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    A Non-FFL can send directly to a California FFL. It's up to the Calif FFL if he will accept shipment, not the law. There are a lot of dealers that will handle it for a fee. If your dealer says he can't, find another dealer.
     
  11. Vince McNamara

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    I have bought many guns from out of state. Most have been from FFL dealers, the last being a Perazzi MX-3 barrel set. My FFL dealer did the paperwork and I did the 10 day wait, nothing else. At the present time you pay no Calif sales tax on an item purchased out of state, unless the seller has an arrangement with Calif to collect taxes.
     
  12. goose2

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    It is clear by all the different comments regarding this that not everyone has the same opinion or knowledge about it. I myself tried to sale a shotgun to a California resident and his FFL said my FFL needed to contact the state California to get a # before he would receive it. Guess what, I did not sale the gun to him. Maybe all of this is why you see so many people say "will not sale to California" on there listings on other sites. It's all a bunch of crap.
     
  13. bonzai272

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    For what its worth, I bought a gun out of state last month and had it shipped to my FFL here in CA. He informed me that he had just received a letter from the state saying that he must start collecting sales tax on out of state gun purchases. I had to pay tax on it =(
     
  14. slic lee

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    Man in Ca wanted my daughters 2 Colt SAA. Got his info and dealer. Checked out dealer with ATF. Called dealer said its OK, Buyer wanted guns yesterday, shipped 2 days air with call me upon delivery. Done deal.
     
  15. Joe Potosky

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    RE: he must start collecting sales tax on out of state gun purchases

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  16. Avaldes

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    Use Turners Outdoorsman or any other chain gun dealer here in Ca. They have all the paperwork and do out of state transfers all day long. You won't have any trouble. If you send it to a mom and pop place, I could imagine a situation where they haven't done it before and there could be issues.

    I too have bought several guns from out of state and had them shipped here to Ca. Never had a problem with my local FFL doing the correct paperwork. Just pay whatever fees required and wait the 10 days(the longest 10 days of your life when you are waiting for a Perazzi or your next pride and joy). They have my business for all my future out of state transfers of ownership.
     
  17. ysr_racer

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    Who's to say what I paid for my Perazzi ?
     
  18. Joe Potosky

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    Who knows how far they are going to go on colleting taxes, but

    We can assume if the tax departement for some reason gets involved they will assess a fair market value and tax accordingly. Who knows what the penalty fees would be.

    Like buying a $30,000 vehicle and stating you purchased it for $1000. Wink, wink...
     
  19. ysr_racer

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    What if "my friend" gives me a Perazzi ?
     
  20. Joe Potosky

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    Your from Ca, call the tax department and ask : )
     
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